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Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 12:49:28 AM
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Melissa11102006
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Do you think Christians should be getting involved in other people's affairs when there is no clear reason to? I'm talking about situations where someone makes comment about how you or someone else should act, dress or think, when it's inappropriate to do so.
For example, someone "hinting" under their breath that a person should be dressed in a more "proper" fashion at a community function. Or maybe judging that a person should or should not be doing something, without knowing all the circumstances of why the person is doing it.
These are broad examples that could fit a variety of circumstances, but I think you might get the hint. What the Bible says about it is simply this:
Mind your own business and not be a busybody. Later, I will edit this post with the Bible verses where these commands are located, but believe me, they are there.
What do you think about this?
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 9:53:17 AM
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I think Christians should be involved in not being so sensitive.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 9:56:53 AM
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Thinking of some of those verses,
I think we can say God thinks it's an abomination.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 11:04:54 AM
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Do you think Christians should be getting involved in other people's affairs when there is no clear reason to? I'm talking about situations where someone makes comment about how you or someone else should act, dress or think, when it's inappropriate to do so. Please define "clear reason". Please define "when it's inappropriate". How does 2 Thess 3:13-15 apply -
And as for you, brothers, never tire of doing what is right. If anyone does not obey our instruction in this letter, take special note of him. Do not associate with him, in order that he may feel ashamed. Yet do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 11:28:19 AM
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Do you think Christians should be getting involved in other people's affairs when there is no clear reason to?
You've answered your own question. When there is no clear reason to means no. When the Spirit has not lead you or directed you to become involved, lead a quiet life, attend to your own business and work with your hands (I Thess 4:11). Busybodies are pursuing their own pleasures, not in step with the Spirit.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 12:00:57 PM
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I like this verse:
and to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life and attend to your own business and work with your hands, just as we commanded you 1 Thes 4:11
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I think Christians should be involved in not being so sensitive.
Fortunately, not everyone is thick skinned ......
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 1:11:05 PM
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What do you think about this?
Most of what passes for prayer requests is no more than gossip or busybodies at work in many places. Exposing sin is not the same as
"Did you see what Mary/Dianne/June/Pastor Joe was wearing? Or Sally's skirt is too short.......
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 1:30:40 PM
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Prov. 10 : 8 says; The wise of heart will receive commands but a babbling fool will be thrown down.
1 Thes. 4:11,12 were to lead quiet lives.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 2:57:08 PM
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It really urks me when someone uses "prophecy" to be a busybody.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 2:58:30 PM
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Does anybody posting here think there is any appropriate reason to confront a fellow Believer about any behavior or actions? I am frankly surprised by the lack of concern for mutual edification that I see from these responses.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 3:01:35 PM
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Of course there are times when you confront in love...timing is everything and tact is very important. Folks need to check their own hearts first before they approach another, ya know, check for logs in eyes b4 looking for splinters in others. Also, unasked for advice often falls on deaf ears.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 3:04:52 PM
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ORIGINAL: drmark
Does anybody posting here think there is any appropriate reason to confront a fellow Believer about any behavior or actions? I am frankly surprised by the lack of concern for mutual edification that I see from these responses.
There are definitely appropriate times to walk with another believer through a situation. But there are also times to back off and allow the Holy Spirit some breathing room.
People sometimes get the two confused.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 3:18:45 PM
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I am frankly surprised by the lack of concern for mutual edification that I see from these responses.
Is this what the OP is referring to? I didn't think so, but I could could have missed her point.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 4:05:34 PM
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There may be times that we are called to defend someone else, but if someone is being snide to us, it's often best to let it go.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 7:24:32 PM
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I am frankly surprised by the lack of concern for mutual edification that I see from these responses.
Is this what the OP is referring to? I didn't think so, but I could could have missed her point.
If I'm recalling correctly, this thread was inspired by the Food Stamps thread. But I'm not sure if MyCatSmokey2006 wanted to limit the busybody issue to such instances.
But the other conversation does put her ponderings into context.
My take wasn't that this thread was gonna be about times when self-proclaimed believers are obviously sinning and are in need of church discipline. But that we're talking here about times when one's own prejudices and opinions color what one observes about others, esp. about others we know nothing about except what is externally observable.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/27/2009 9:12:05 PM
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Okay, thank you for clarifying the OP, Elena. I'm glad some of us still feel accountability among Believers is valuable.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/29/2009 1:18:34 AM
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Does anybody posting here think there is any appropriate reason to confront a fellow Believer about any behavior or actions? I am frankly surprised by the lack of concern for mutual edification that I see from these responses.
If we are always looking at others and trying to correct them we could be:
A: Not paying attention to our own issues
B: Not trusting God. Try imaging that God works in their life just as He does in yours. Sometimes it can be a trust issue, not with them, but in ones own life.
C: Be sure that the principle of Projection is not occurring.
After living a long life, I am never surprised to find out that more often than not, the folks who feel they have to correct others, or are consumed with the sins of others, are actually fighting their own inner struggles with sins. Satan knows that the easiest way to get folks not to pay attention to their own sins is to get them to watch over everyone elses.
Paul gave instructions in how to correct not because we should be using those insructions often, but just so we knew how it should be done.
Now if you are talking about "edification", which is encouraging and helping others to reach for the higher ground, that might be a different story. But judgement "by" "encouragement" is not edification.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 10/31/2009 8:34:42 AM
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If we are always looking at others and trying to correct them we could be:
A: Not paying attention to our own issues . . .
C: Be sure that the principle of Projection is not occurring.
After living a long life, I am never surprised to find out that more often than not, the folks who feel they have to correct others, or are consumed with the sins of others, are actually fighting their own inner struggles with sins. Satan knows that the easiest way to get folks not to pay attention to their own sins is to get them to watch over everyone elses.
Over the years, I have seen these two to play out most often in the lives of the ones who make it their personal duty to go about "correcting." I would add that another idea within "projecting" is that the corrector feels a certain way in a particular situation, so the project their feelings upon another in whom such feelings never occurred, accusing the other person of the accusers' own feelings.
I have found that those who are often involved in correcting others are extremely faulty people who will not face their own "stuff." It is easier for them to correct others than to face the things G-d is pointing out in their own lives. It is their way of running from G-d, running from reality.
We all have to occasionally say something to someone about their actions/attitudes, but there is no personal delight in that for most of us. But the one who delights in fault-finding uses their "correction" as a way of moving up on their own scale as they number the notches cut into others by their correction.
Of course, on the other side are those who will not receive correction and are "hurt" by it. So they will not grow either. I think we can all fall on either side.
Good question, Smokey. Judging is good. We all need to learn to judge properly. But what we do with our judgment is what is important. While some perceive unfair judgment at every turn, on the other hand, those who constantly say things "under their breath," imagine situations that are non-existent, and jump on others wrongly. These are not saying things that truly benefit anyone, and they need to be ignored. Just smile and walk away, not allowing them to influence you or any of your further thoughts.
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RE: Being a Busybody - 11/1/2009 6:54:44 AM
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ORIGINAL: drmark
Does anybody posting here think there is any appropriate reason to confront a fellow Believer about any behavior or actions? I am frankly surprised by the lack of concern for mutual edification that I see from these responses.
Of course there are appropriate reasons. But the OP began with 'when there is no clear reason'. . . which you questioned as well.
That said, I know from personal experience that most such confrontations end the relationship. There is very little spiritual maturity among the brethren. So when you're dealing with babes, you generally get a baby response. It is also a part of our culture. We used to be disciplined for our own good. With the permissive parenting and child centered families today, there is very little respect for authority or willingness to believe that someone just might know something you don't. . .
It is a very sad thing, drmark, but the kind of edification that is needed won't be heard. Instead people run to those who will tell them what they want to hear. 
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That said, I know from personal experience that most such confrontations end the relationship. There is very little spiritual maturity among the brethren. So when you're dealing with babes, you generally get a baby response. It is also a part of our culture. We used to be disciplined for our own good. With the permissive parenting and child centered families today, there is very little respect for authority or willingness to believe that someone just might know something you don't. . .
It is a very sad thing, drmark, but the kind of edification that is needed won't be heard. Instead people run to those who will tell them what they want to hear.
You nailed that one LL!
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RE: Being a Busybody - 11/1/2009 7:19:48 AM
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It depends on the circumstance being addressed. Some who do not want to be called out on their sin, feel like the person calling them out is a busybody.
In our politically correct world that would rather not offend, we are allowing our brother's and sister's to revel in their sin. Sometimes we prefer to revel in it ourselves.
My pastor's wife said, "If we instituted church disipline as instructed in the bible, we would have no one in church!"
Hello????? A very revealing statement about the body!
Those that are overly sensitive, do not want to be called out on their sin. It's hurtful to them, because their self-image is so wrapped up in appearing righteous.
For busybodies, it is much easier to look at the plank in someone elses' eye rather than looking at their own.
On the flip side, someone who has removed the plank in their own eye has a place of understanding and insight that could be very helpful to another.
For clarification: A plank is a single sin, not sin as a whole. (My understanding)
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RE: Being a Busybody - 11/7/2009 8:48:54 PM
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It is really annoying to comment after LL or Elena...there is nothing left to say.
But being at a time with nothing else to do....
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