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Commonalities of both Campaign's Economic Plans - 9/17/2008 3:05:42 PM   
blue1914

 

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Mr. Obama's plan:

http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/

Mr. McCain's plan:

http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/jobsforamerica/

While they both approach the problem from different directions, I am interested to see that they both acknowledge the obvious - America needs more domestic jobs created to take the place of the vacuum that has been created by relaxed rules to encourage "international trade" (read export American jobs and half of America's purchasing power).

Now my question-quite obviously they both see the real issue-why will neither of them stand up and make concrete-even if they are short term-American business protectionist friendly policy. My take is that they realize that they really cannot given the state of America's stature worldwide-in other words, we as a nation are far too beholden to foreign powers to come in and make the true reforms necessary to get America back on track economically.

Any other thoughts-just curious to see what others think about it all. Also if you agree, what would you propose. I just wonder if anyone is interested in a conversation about this election that is about something other than lipstick, pigs or Tina Fey.
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RE: Commonalities of both Campaign's Economic Plans - 9/17/2008 3:28:18 PM   
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perhaps they both realize that the President can only submit budgets and proposals...the Congress enacts the legislation...the Courts determine whether or not the legislation fits legal parameters...it takes the whole process to affect real change...and i think both correctly recognize the challenges facing our country in the years ahead...it will take compromise between the differing factions to affect any real an meaningful change, which neither the Dems or Repubs seem to be showing much interest in working together and reaching such compromise...but this is how the democratic process works and how our Federal Republic became strong and remained so during the 20th century

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RE: Commonalities of both Campaign's Economic Plans - 9/17/2008 4:03:34 PM   
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perhaps they both realize that the President can only submit budgets and proposals...the Congress enacts the legislation...the Courts determine whether or not the legislation fits legal parameters...it takes the whole process to affect real change...and i think both correctly recognize the challenges facing our country in the years ahead...it will take compromise between the differing factions to affect any real an meaningful change, which neither the Dems or Repubs seem to be showing much interest in working together and reaching such compromise...but this is how the democratic process works and how our Federal Republic became strong and remained so during the 20th century


You know, that is quite correct about the way the process works-though in our world today, we have foisted (unfairly so in my opinion) the title of "fixer of all things" to the president. Though he will only propose the budget, it lands at his feet to shepherd that budget through the approval process in Congress.

Congress is then able to blame him if they mess up, he has a harder time reversing that and blaming them. Of course where we are today is due to the actions of many congresses and many presidents and it's really unfair to ever expect that any one man (or woman for that matter) will be able to untangle the twisted web that has been woven over the years.

That said, what the executive CAN affect is a coalitional style of government that aligns factions to attempt to make that shepherding process work well for the American people. We saw this most on display with Mr. Clinton in the mid to late 90's-he worked very well with an oppositional party congress, mainly by making a LOT of compromises that went against the core values of his party. By doing this, he was able to pass SOME legislation that he wanted as well.

For me, this election is boiling down to who can best do that-compromise to the point where both sides are working together (no small feat) and who REALLY sees the issues ahead of country.

While I believe Mr. Obama has the collaborative skills necessary to work across party lines, I'm less than impressed with what he has said about the real problems. While Mr. McCain has made bi-partisan pushes in the past, I am also disappointed in what he has identified as problems ahead of us.

To be honest, Mr. Ron Paul makes a very compelling argument with a firm grasp of what is ahead (in my opinion that is of course)-but of course he is not an option and if he were, my real question would be how bi-partisan he would truly be.

Thanks for your comments!
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