|
Users viewing this topic:
none
|
|
Login  | |
|
Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/12/2008 3:27:45 AM
|
|
|
OneOfHisJewels
Posts: 2540
Joined: 8/9/2007
From: California
Status: offline
|
These girls would each like to marry and have a family, as would many other conjoined twins. And many conjoined twins have married. I can't blame them for the desire to marry, as it is a natural desire..but, of course, as christians, we also believe in marriage being between one woman and one man. This can cause some grey areas where there are normally none.
Let's discuss.
< Message edited by OneOfHisJewels -- 10/12/2008 10:31:59 AM >
_____________________________
"We basically use what I have seen referred to as "get off your butt" parenting. It employs more interaction, more redirection, more prevention, and usually less spanking."
-Mrs. Wifey
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/12/2008 8:34:44 AM
|
|
|
Consecrated2God
Posts: 4908
Joined: 4/4/2005
From: Formerly Jesus Land
Status: offline
|
What girls are you talking about?
_____________________________
<--Plantation house in Louisiana
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/12/2008 10:21:02 AM
|
|
|
stellaluna
Posts: 4219
Joined: 4/11/2005
Status: online
|
Are you talking about Abby and Brittany?
Technically, conjoined twins are two people, so I don't see any problem with one of them marrying. Logistically, sure, but morally, no.
_____________________________
Who should be allowed to attend church?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/12/2008 10:33:02 AM
|
|
|
OneOfHisJewels
Posts: 2540
Joined: 8/9/2007
From: California
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God
What girls are you talking about?
Abby and Brittany Hensel. Apparently, I messed up on my link last night. I fixed it.
quote:
Are you talking about Abby and Brittany?
yes
_____________________________
"We basically use what I have seen referred to as "get off your butt" parenting. It employs more interaction, more redirection, more prevention, and usually less spanking."
-Mrs. Wifey
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/12/2008 12:26:40 PM
|
|
|
Consecrated2God
Posts: 4908
Joined: 4/4/2005
From: Formerly Jesus Land
Status: offline
|
Wow, thanks for the link. They seem like such sweet girls who are making the best of things. I hope for the best.
If they find someone who is willing to live with the challenges that marriage to a conjoined twin would bring, there's nothing morally wrong with that. It would be difficult, but it's not a moral issue.
_____________________________
<--Plantation house in Louisiana
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/12/2008 11:25:55 PM
|
|
|
tenfour
Posts: 87
Joined: 8/4/2005
Status: offline
|
Where in the Bible does it actually say marriage is only between one man and one woman? It is only specifically discouraged for leaders in the church. I think that in general, polygamy leads to a lot of heartache and jealously, but it's not technically unchristian. It needs to be illegal in our country because it's the only way to really protect the girls in the cults that practice polygamy along with forced marriage.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 12:20:22 AM
|
|
|
OneOfHisJewels
Posts: 2540
Joined: 8/9/2007
From: California
Status: offline
|
quote:
It is only specifically discouraged for leaders in the church.
I, personally, believe that that makes it obvious that if the leaders, who are to be the EXAMPLE of what's right..and that is their requirement, then it is also the requirement of all others....and I really believe the commandment about adultery applies here too.
I personally believe that marriage IS between one man in one woman..and that is the premise I come from in my OP. This thread was about conjoined twins getting married with that premise already in mind.
If you really want to debate about whether or not marriage is between one man and one woman, you should really start your own thread..that is really not what my thread is about, and that brings it off topic. Thanks
_____________________________
"We basically use what I have seen referred to as "get off your butt" parenting. It employs more interaction, more redirection, more prevention, and usually less spanking."
-Mrs. Wifey
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 4:32:28 PM
|
|
|
SweetPea213
Posts: 61
Joined: 2/20/2008
Status: offline
|
I don't see anything wrong with them wanting to get married. They can't help being the way they are, it's not their fault they were conjoined.
_____________________________
"He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness; by his wounds you have been healed." ~ 1 Peter 2:24
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 4:58:45 PM
|
|
|
zoebob
Posts: 8775
Joined: 4/13/2005
From: land of limbo
Status: online
|
I think the issue comes with marital intimacy which should be private is not.
_____________________________
L-R: DD1, Ellies DS2, DD2, Ellies DS1
L-R: Ellies DD1, Ellies DD2, DS, Ellies DS3
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 5:12:34 PM
|
|
|
MrFribbles
Posts: 1624
Joined: 1/29/2007
From: Hawaii, but I've moved around since then
Status: offline
|
You know, I've actually wondered about this very question a few times. And frankly, it has me stumped. On the one hand, they are definitely two unique people. I would definitely contend that they have two unique souls. Conceivably, one could go to heaven and one could go to hell (though of course, I hope to see both of them in heaven!).
But marriage? I have no clue. It's a great question, though.
_____________________________
You're a door without a key,
A field without a fence.
You've made a holy fool of me,
And I've thanked you ever since.
- Aaron Weiss
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 5:20:47 PM
|
|
|
GroupW
Posts: 2911
Joined: 11/16/2007
From: Up in the hills of Colorado (very BIG hills...)
Status: offline
|
I agree. No clue. Not one. Nada. In the words of a friend from Long Island, "I got nuttin' here."
_____________________________
“For every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant and wrong.” -H.L. Mencken
"Most people would rather die than think; in fact, they do so." -Bertrand Russell
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 5:52:12 PM
|
|
|
Memaw.
Posts: 2459
Joined: 1/29/2007
From: Sunflower State
Status: offline
|
I've been thinking about this scenario since I first saw this thread.
My questions would be,
What if one wants a child, the other doesn't?
What if one wants to marry, the other doesn't?
If they both marry, would it be to one man, or two men?
If there are two husbands, would DNA tests need to be performed if pregnancy occurred to determine which husband fathered?
I have watched their 16 yr old video and they talk about how they will touch each other asking, can you feel that, so I know their body is "separated" in areas, but there is only one "private area" to their body.
_____________________________
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
Every generation has to learn how to protect and defend it, or it's gone
and gone for a long, long time."
Ronald Reagan
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 5:55:18 PM
|
|
|
stellaluna
Posts: 4219
Joined: 4/11/2005
Status: online
|
What's really interesting about those two is that if one arm itches the other scratches it. They don't mention it or talk about it, it just happens.
_____________________________
Who should be allowed to attend church?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 6:34:52 PM
|
|
|
Random
Posts: 1044
Joined: 4/18/2005
From: Zipperhead
Status: offline
|
IIRC, Chang and Eng were both married, and in fact fathered several children. I believe they were even married to (non-conjoined) twins.
LINK:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_and_Eng
I guess they didn't marry twins, but they did marry sisters.
_____________________________
"That which has always been accepted by everyone, everywhere, is almost certain to be false." -- Valery
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 7:14:19 PM
|
|
|
solo_soprano22
Posts: 2478
Joined: 4/27/2005
From: I'm a Southern girl
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Memaw.
I've been thinking about this scenario since I first saw this thread.
My questions would be,
What if one wants a child, the other doesn't?
What if one wants to marry, the other doesn't?
If they both marry, would it be to one man, or two men?
If there are two husbands, would DNA tests need to be performed if pregnancy occurred to determine which husband fathered?
I have watched their 16 yr old video and they talk about how they will touch each other asking, can you feel that, so I know their body is "separated" in areas, but there is only one "private area" to their body.
I think since they're two different people, they'd marry two separate men. I think the way they're conjoined makes it complicated though. I'll never really know how they think about it, but if they share a pelvis and reproductive organs, they have to use one set of organs for both separate girls...and it seems odd when it comes to sexual things. I'm not sure how their sensations are, but it seems like if they both married two different men, the men would be sharing the same body...and if one wanted to get pregnant but the other didn't, then that'd be a problem. And even if one did the other a "favor" of agreeing to have a baby, think about what can go wrong that could kill both of them....etc etc etc.
_____________________________
For God, For Learning, Forever.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 7:17:28 PM
|
|
|
Consecrated2God
Posts: 4908
Joined: 4/4/2005
From: Formerly Jesus Land
Status: offline
|
I think the personal stuff is probably something they aren't going to be making public, so we'll probably never know. I really don't want to know all the details, actually. I figure that's their own business.
_____________________________
<--Plantation house in Louisiana
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 9:00:47 PM
|
|
|
Memaw.
Posts: 2459
Joined: 1/29/2007
From: Sunflower State
Status: offline
|
Of course it is their own business, I was just responding to the thread and the questions that popped into my own head regarding it.
_____________________________
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
Every generation has to learn how to protect and defend it, or it's gone
and gone for a long, long time."
Ronald Reagan
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/13/2008 10:07:39 PM
|
|
|
OneOfHisJewels
Posts: 2540
Joined: 8/9/2007
From: California
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Random
IIRC, Chang and Eng were both married, and in fact fathered several children. I believe they were even married to (non-conjoined) twins.
LINK:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_and_Eng
I guess they didn't marry twins, but they did marry sisters.
They were only joined at the tummy, though. All they shared was a liver. That's a little different.
_____________________________
"We basically use what I have seen referred to as "get off your butt" parenting. It employs more interaction, more redirection, more prevention, and usually less spanking."
-Mrs. Wifey
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/14/2008 11:52:53 AM
|
|
|
Peter_Gunn
Posts: 705
Joined: 6/12/2008
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: OneOfHisJewels
quote:
ORIGINAL: Random
IIRC, Chang and Eng were both married, and in fact fathered several children. I believe they were even married to (non-conjoined) twins.
LINK:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_and_Eng
I guess they didn't marry twins, but they did marry sisters.
They were only joined at the tummy, though. All they shared was a liver. That's a little different.
If they were joined at the tummy, then how did they....hmmmmm...never mind...my head hurts. 
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/14/2008 4:03:58 PM
|
|
|
Hislittleone
Posts: 621
Joined: 7/13/2007
Status: offline
|
Interesting question..... It's definitely confusing but I'd say that since they share the lower half of their body they either shouldn't marry or should only marry one man. At least if they only marry one man then it's polygamy which is debatable as to whether it's wrong or not. The consumation of marriage is what would be most wrong IMO. I don't want to get TOS on this so I'll just leave it at that.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/14/2008 8:25:50 PM
|
|
|
FurGodWurLivin
Posts: 979
Joined: 4/17/2005
From: Kansas City, MO
Status: offline
|
Just one word......... akward......
_____________________________
I am hyena, Jesus is my Mufasa...
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/15/2008 2:55:25 AM
|
|
|
Jhud
Posts: 7876
Joined: 4/11/2005
From: Lake Wobegon
Status: online
|
The reality is what is right and good are absolute and easily discernible. In a broken world though, what is good and right is often muddled by the broken physical reality in which we live; it may be that there is no readily discernible answer in this case, other than that to the best of her ability, each twin give herself to her own husband.
And come to think of it, that probably isn't always easy for any married person.
_____________________________
Jack
It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first..
- Ronald Reagan
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/15/2008 3:28:30 PM
|
|
|
Mrs.X
Posts: 2929
Joined: 7/7/2005
From: Newberg, OR
Status: online
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Hislittleone
Interesting question..... It's definitely confusing but I'd say that since they share the lower half of their body they either shouldn't marry or should only marry one man. At least if they only marry one man then it's polygamy which is debatable as to whether it's wrong or not. The consumation of marriage is what would be most wrong IMO. I don't want to get TOS on this so I'll just leave it at that.
I think in a case like this, the government ought to make an exception for them and allow one man to marry both of them.
_____________________________
-Stina
From Sweet Grass to the Packin' House
A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. -Proverbs 15:1
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Conjoined twins and marriage.. - 10/15/2008 3:29:33 PM
|
|
|
Peter_Gunn
Posts: 705
Joined: 6/12/2008
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Mrs.X
I think in a case like this, the government ought to make an exception for them and allow one man to marry both of them.
Oh, boy...you've done it now! 
|
|
|
|
|
Forum Tools
Printable Version
