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Overwieght Women - 8/31/2008 7:55:39 AM
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N-E-W-S
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Why does this bother men? Why will you not date a woman who is overwieght? I do not have a problem with full figured women and would date them if I had the chance.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 8/31/2008 8:06:23 AM
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Everybody has things that they find more attractive. Some men will like overweight women, and others won't. I think it's good that all men don't find the same type of things attractive, or else we'd all be going after the same women!
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RE: Overwieght Women - 8/31/2008 4:00:53 PM
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Well, actually I'm not allowed to date overweight women. I'm already married.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 8/31/2008 4:46:32 PM
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you and i should become buddies. for the one reason that you and i don't have to worry about each other going for the same woman.
To answer your question, I just don't find it sexy. but to each their own. beauty IS in the eye of the beholder. Go for the kind of woman YOU think is attractive.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 8/31/2008 5:35:57 PM
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Why does this bother men?
It's different for everyone's personal preference. It bothers me because:
1.) I find an excessive amount of fat covering over the natural anatomy of my woman to be incredibly unattractive. Something unappealing isn't appealing, no matter how you try to sugarcoat it.
2.) Being overweight shows a lack of concern on her behalf for her own personal well-being. It dramatically affects your health in an innumerable amount of ways. You can potentially become depressed because of this. Overall, it's not a smart physical choice to not take care of yourself. Again, it's unattractive.
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Why will you not date a woman who is overwieght?
I wouldn't date anyone regardless of their weight, because I'm already taken. 
God specifically knew what I wanted in a woman, and I completely got it in her, and then some.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 8/31/2008 8:53:01 PM
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Since I have more than a few extra pounds, being overweght isn't a turn-off. However, being obese is a definite.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 8/31/2008 10:27:28 PM
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2.) Being overweight shows a lack of concern on her behalf for her own personal well-being. It dramatically affects your health in an innumerable amount of ways. You can potentially become depressed because of this. Overall, it's not a smart physical choice to not take care of yourself. Again, it's unattractive.
A study came out recently showing that 50% of overweight women are actually healthy.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 8/31/2008 11:04:59 PM
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What would y'all do if you preferred an "in-shape" women, and then 30 years and who knows how many children down the marriage road she becomes overweight?
Just asking...
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RE: Overwieght Women - 8/31/2008 11:21:35 PM
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A study came out recently showing that 50% of overweight women are actually healthy.
yeah sure
and next thing they gonna say is they eat 23 chocolates a day to be more healthy...
anyway in short cause its unattractive.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/1/2008 12:01:20 AM
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Well, actually I'm not allowed to date overweight women. I'm already married.
Bwha ha ha ha ha ha!
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I was never attracted to overweight women, though I dated one I admired and she was a stronger Christian than I was.
This is hard to answer outside of your own circumstances, but at 51 I have never been overweight. So for me, an overweight woman doesn't feel like my physical counterpart. I work hard to keep my body in shape and would not be patient with someone without the same commitment.
Also, I am married to a thin woman who has a slow metabolism. She's living proof that weight does not HAVE to increase with age and childbirth.
I feel a bit narrow minded in this area... and a bit guilty as a Christian man.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/1/2008 2:32:02 AM
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What would y'all do if you preferred an "in-shape" women, and then 30 years and who knows how many children down the marriage road she becomes overweight?
Just asking...
I've heard this question many of times. There is still no excuses for anyone to not take care of themselves unless they are physically handicapped and incapable to do so.
Pregnancy is not an excuse to be overweight. I know of a lady who recently had a child, and just weeks after, she's already beginning to slim down. Also, in pregnancy, there is such as a thing as a healthy weight to gain and an unhealthy weight to gain. Pregnancy shouldn't be used as an excuse for weight problems.
Being that I care so much about my girlfriend (my eventual wife), I would willing help her get "in shape" and take better care of herself if that need be, and I know she would do the same for me. It's not a matter of being unable to do it, it's a matter of being unwilling.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/1/2008 2:49:57 AM
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A study came out recently showing that 50% of overweight women are actually healthy.
Uh-huh.
There's studies worldwide that will speak positive of a negative, regardless if it's still a negative.
65% of Americans are classified as obese. We are far beyond being a "healthy" country given the accessible fast food joints and various other foods that's promoted as a "good" thing.
If you do not take care of yourself, you are not healthy. Likewise, if you do not shower for a week, you are not hygienical.
Our heart is a muscle just like biceps and triceps. It requires cardiovascular exercise in order to be in a healthy state. No article can state that your heart, nor any limb or joint, doesn't have a need for exercise in order to be healthy. That's just simply silly.
We read to preserve our minds. We exercise to preserve our bodies and better our health. It's not rocket science.
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FYI:Half of overweight adults may be heart-healthy
"The authors noted that fat tissue releases hormones and other substances that affect things like blood vessels, cholesterol and blood sugar. The results suggest this interaction varies among overweight and obese people, the authors said."
Regardless of such results, it doesn't change the fact that they are not positive.
"about 51 percent of overweight adults, or roughly 36 million people nationwide, had mostly normal levels of blood pressure, cholesterol, blood fats called triglycerides and blood sugar."
I like how they throw "mostly" in there. There is much more beyond these points that classify someone as healthy.
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She's living proof that weight does not HAVE to increase with age and childbirth.
Preach it.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/1/2008 11:52:18 AM
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What would y'all do if you preferred an "in-shape" women, and then 30 years and who knows how many children down the marriage road she becomes overweight?
Just asking...
I've heard this question many of times. There is still no excuses for anyone to not take care of themselves unless they are physically handicapped and incapable to do so.
Pregnancy is not an excuse to be overweight. I know of a lady who recently had a child, and just weeks after, she's already beginning to slim down. Also, in pregnancy, there is such as a thing as a healthy weight to gain and an unhealthy weight to gain. Pregnancy shouldn't be used as an excuse for weight problems.
Being that I care so much about my girlfriend (my eventual wife), I would willing help her get "in shape" and take better care of herself if that need be, and I know she would do the same for me. It's not a matter of being unable to do it, it's a matter of being unwilling.
Wait till you get in your 50's son, before you tie yourself into this answer.  Life happens and circumstances change is all I'm saying.
But what if? What if the love of your life who now is in knockout great shape decides to be "unwilling" to have you "help" her regain her figure of 30 years ago.
Again, just asking...
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/1/2008 2:30:02 PM
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Why does this bother men? Why will you not date a woman who is overwieght? I do not have a problem with full figured women and would date them if I had the chance.
Women are supposed to be attractive. I can handle a thick woman but not a fat woman. There is a difference.
Women don't like fat men either. I have a lot more women checking me out and flirting with me since I dropped 40lbs. If I drop another 40 I bet they really will be moving then.
MEn and women are both superficial.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/1/2008 4:44:48 PM
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All fat people, please report to the gallows.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/1/2008 7:59:19 PM
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Wait till you get in your 50's son, before you tie yourself into this answer. Life happens and circumstances change is all I'm saying.
I very well know this. You can control whether this change affects you positively or not. So, an excuse of "life just happens" is irrelevancy because despite of life happening, that doesn't directly mean you lose the ability to eat healthy, to exercise at least for thirty minutes a day, etc.
I made poor health decisions awhile ago. I was becoming obese in my early teenage years and it continued to grow over the years. That was a prime example of life happening but myself being unwilling to adjust to those circumstances in a positive way. Instead, I let myself get big and did nothing about it.
All that has changed now, obviously. But it proves to me that you have the ability to do something about yourself in terms of health. I don't plan to "let myself go" when I hit the 50 mark. Instead of being "that old guy who let himself go because life's circumstances was too much for him", I plan on being "that grandpa who still looks like a stud despite his age."
I just don't believe that with life nor age, things have to negatively effect you if you're willing to do something about it.
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What if the love of your life who now is in knockout great shape decides to be "unwilling" to have you "help" her regain her figure of 30 years ago.
Again, just asking...
Quite honestly, our intimate life with die. I don't aim to sound bitter or harsh in my comments, but I have seen for myself in those that I'm close with that physical attraction dramatically affects the intimate side of ones' relationship.
I couldn't find her as attractive as I currently view her if she personally decided to no longer take care of herself, for herself, and because she knows how I feel about it but spites me anyway.
Likewise, she wouldn't want intimacy with a flabby, unhygienical and unhealthy husband who didn't take care of himself because he knew she appreciated it. I wouldn't do that to her knowing that she likes that aspect of me, and I wouldn't expect her to do the same to me 30 years later.
I wouldn't stop loving her, but I wouldn't be as in love with her physical self. If I gained over a hundred pounds, she would feel exactly the same.
So to answer your question, if she is unwilling to take care of herself anytime down the road, then the physical attraction would die. And if I was unwilling to take care of myself, then the same would happen.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/1/2008 8:18:10 PM
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Women are supposed to be attractive. I can handle a thick woman but not a fat woman. There is a difference.
Ah, yes. There's a huge difference between obese/overweight and curvy.
I actually really like some curviness. Provided it isn't loose and possessing too much fatty issue.
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Women don't like fat men either. I have a lot more women checking me out and flirting with me since I dropped 40lbs. If I drop another 40 I bet they really will be moving then.
Exactly. It goes both ways.
When I weighed close to a near 250 lbs., no woman bothered to notice my existence. After that changed, so did their perspective.
If everyone was honest, both sexes would admit that physical attraction plays a significant role in the game of allurement. What divides this is that everyone has a different preference to their own personal attraction. Regardless, everyone has a preference that physically attracts themselves to another.
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All fat people, please report to the gallows.
Nah, just direct them to the nearest gym.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/2/2008 2:29:57 AM
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Since I have more than a few extra pounds, being overweght isn't a turn-off. However, being obese is a definite.
Yep, same here.
After reading all these threads,this makes the most sense for me.
Hey, we all change. Little belly here,longer ears,more ear hairs,ugly veiny legs,not to mention the shape some of toenails take.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/2/2008 2:41:03 PM
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Quite honestly, our intimate life with die. I don't aim to sound bitter or harsh in my comments, but I have seen for myself in those that I'm close with that physical attraction dramatically affects the intimate side of ones' relationship.
Randy, be sure and include a line within your wedding vows that make your expectations clear on this matter. You can include a clause making a temporary exception for baby weight, if you'd like, along with a reasonable time limit for shedding any additional weight that came with the gestation.
You could swear your undying love, through riches and poverty, through sickness and health, which could be voided by 30 pounds. Your intended, then, can know where the limits of your love and commitment are, and will be much less likely to fall into violation of the original agreement. Of course, she might want a spare tire clause of her own. Well, that is, if she feels her love for you would only be conditional too. I realize how unlikely the even remote possibility of that would seem to a fellow in his 20's, so I'd go ahead and sign it, because I'm certain you'll always stay in great shape. I feel this is the best way that you both can feel comforted, then, equally yoked, moving into the future knowing you're going to have the spouse you each deserve.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/2/2008 2:51:56 PM
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Given a choice between an anorexic bag-of-bones like today's models or women in TV media and a full-figured, shapely woman, I'd choose the second. Skinny just doesn't appeal to me, reminds me of those poor inmates in concentration camps of WW2.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/2/2008 3:46:58 PM
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FYI:Half of overweight adults may be heart-healthy
From the article I gather that 3/4 of adults who are in the reccomended weight range are "heart-healthy", 1/2 of those who are overweight, 1/3 of those who are obese, and I'm going to guess that the number continues to drop as you get into morbid obesity. A direct quote from the article: "A number of experts say waist size is a more accurate way of determining someone's health risks, and the study results support that argument." Yes, it's possible to be overweight and still healthy. It's also possible to be thin and unhealthy. There is a difference between being a healthy weight and actually being fit, though.
One of the problems I have with discussing women's weight is that all too often there is impossible line drawn between thin and overweight. As if women are either fit or fat, and that's just absurd. There is a huge difference between a woman who is 5%-10% over her "ideal" weight, and a woman who is 50%-100%+ over what she should weigh.
Hoestly, I think a lot of women look better with 5 - 10 extra pounds on them. However, if a (hypothetical) girl is 5'4" and weighs 210 when she should weigh 140... Weight like that doesn't just happen, and it doesn't exist all alone. I have never met a woman who weighed that much more than she should, but somehow didn't have all the emotional and psychological issues that go along with such severe obesity. Plain and simple, I wouldn't date/marry a woman that heavy any more than I would date a smoker, a sluggard or a spendthrift. I say that unapologetically.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/2/2008 4:03:46 PM
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Randy, be sure and include a line within your wedding vows that make your expectations clear on this matter. You can include a clause making a temporary exception for baby weight, if you'd like, along with a reasonable time limit for shedding any additional weight that came with the gestation.
I'm not quite sure whether to interpret that as sarcasm or not, but I have indeed made my expectations clear, as has she. She fully expects me to take care of myself and I can clearly understand that, and I expect that of her, too.
Physical attraction, whether anyone likes it or not, plays hugely into physical intimacy. It isn't rocket science. However, I would never stop loving her overall regardless. It would be harder to love her in that specific area if she "let herself go" without remotely caring about herself or how it would make me feel.
I don't think it's an outlandish expectation to ask your spouse to take care of themselves. Any significant other should deeply care about the other's health.
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Given a choice between an anorexic bag-of-bones like today's models or women in TV media and a full-figured, shapely woman, I'd choose the second.
What you described isn't my understanding of overweight/obese, though. It's sound more like a curvy shape than anything. I don't like overly skinny women, either. I wouldn't want something that I felt could break underneath me.
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RE: Overwieght Women - 9/2/2008 4:12:18 PM
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To answer your question, I just don't find it sexy. but to each their own. beauty IS in the eye of the beholder.
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