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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/6/2008 10:07:02 PM
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Wow...So...YOU dont read peoples posts, then when someone points that out after you ask the SAME THING after already being answered in depth, you answer with a snobby condescending remark? And if you must now, I actually have been apart of the Salem network family of forums longer than Earthless. If anything earthless is my alter ego, not the other way around.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/6/2008 10:14:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: Stephanos Wow...So...YOU dont read peoples posts, then when someone points that out after you ask the SAME THING after already being answered in depth, you answer with a snobby condescending remark? And if you must now, I actually have been apart of the Salem network family of forums longer than Earthless. If anything earthless is my alter ego, not the other way around. To be real honest with you Stephanos, this is not even up for discussion with you, this was a question to Earthless, with compassion behind it, but its someone like you, that wants to come in, and twist peoples words, to try and make me look bad, but this I know, someone who is here for the "RIGHT" reasons, will understand my question, and will not twist it as you have! Go back and read my post, I made it very very clear, that I would not debate Earthless on this, he knows alot more than I do when it comes to Hinn, and I respect Earthless for all his post, and he knows this!! My whole point, and again, if you would read my post, is if it were a personal issue, and "IF" Hinn had made major mistakes back years ago, than maybe its something Earthless is dealing with.......which, I would have discussed that with Earthless, and explained myself, but I see, you are his speaker! Know this....post all you want, to me on this issue, but I will not respond....anyone who will twist someone elses words, is not even worth my time to disuss it with! And btw, I have read all his post! Slow down and read, maybe you wont be so quick to judge people by what they post.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/6/2008 10:39:07 PM
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If you want to have a discussion with earthless, and JUST earthless that is what PM's are for. By posting in the forums proper, you are posting in public, and thus are open to the public responding to what you have to say. If you dont want people "butting in" then take it to PM's!
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/6/2008 10:44:02 PM
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Yes, this is a public forum, and anyone can answer a question, even if it is posed to someone else. If there are questions on this policy, please email community@salemwebnetwork.com allowing time for a reply. Lets not make each other the focus of the thread but get back to Hinn please. Sincerely Kath Volunteer Assistant Administrator Please do not reply to this message within the Community. Please do not send me PMs regarding this message as I am unable to discuss it further. Please email Community@salemwebnetwork.com with questions, comments, or concerns allowing time for a response during normal business hours. Posts which ignore this warning will be removed without warning and may result in other action in accordance with the Terms of Service. Please review our FAQ for an explanation as to why one cannot confront a moderator directly.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/7/2008 8:06:19 AM
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ORIGINAL: misty35 Earthless.......The more I read your post, and if Im wrong, I apologize now, and you can correct me on it, but you seem to have some personal issues with Hinn. There is no way that Im going to defend his teachings, because I dont know him, and Ive only seen him on TV a few times, and the times that I have seen him, I didnt see nor hear him say anything that I found to be wrong. But again, you know alot more about this man than I do, but the post you have here recently are dated back in the 1990's.....I mean, could it not be possible that yes, he has been wrong in the past and has made some major mistakes, and today he isnt teaching the same? Its only a question....so please dont take offense to it. This reflects back to my 'friend Mike from the diner' comment I made the other day to Child4Jesus. This thread is about Benny Hinn - so if it seems that I am talking a lot about Hinn... well.................. that is because this thread is about Benny Hinn. I am simply a Christian that loves Jesus, that loves His Word and has a love and a concern for fellow Christians and the unsaved that fall prey to people like Hinn. Nothing would make me more happy than Hinn sincerely repenting and completely turning away from the false teachings and sinful antics he continues to do on TV and in his conferences.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/7/2008 4:54:41 PM
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I believe it was last night, on tbn give us your money telethon. But old Hinn pushed this guy so hard he open his eyes like "what heck are you trying to do kill me. I only have diabetes you fool. Do not bust my head on this hard ground." I just came to that thought, because he did have his eyes shut, until Benny pushed him hard to fall backwards. And Hinn did mention the gentileman did have that medical problem. Ask him to come to the front so that he could anoint him. I believe Benny called him Jim.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 3:27:34 AM
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ORIGINAL: Soxfan This is not from the Holy Spirit I know. of course that video is not from the Holy Spirit, it is from you tube, and it blasphemes a move of God edited and sniped the link
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 4:52:46 AM
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if every one Else's words are taking out of context, why would not Benny's be too?
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 1:52:54 PM
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ORIGINAL: misty35 quote:
ORIGINAL: gennaoanothen if every one Else's words are taking out of context, why would not Benny's be too? I think this is a fair question.... Ok, then what is the context of his words?
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 1:58:03 PM
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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience quote:
ORIGINAL: misty35 quote:
ORIGINAL: gennaoanothen if every one Else's words are taking out of context, why would not Benny's be too? I think this is a fair question.... Ok, then what is the context of his words? read his books, watch his sermons, find out, get first hand information, and if he is in error, pray for him harder than many condemn him.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:01:55 PM
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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience quote:
ORIGINAL: misty35 quote:
ORIGINAL: gennaoanothen if every one Else's words are taking out of context, why would not Benny's be too? I think this is a fair question.... Ok, then what is the context of his words? Like I said Moody, I think its a very fair question...this is done everyday, and I see it done on these forums alot. I did not post for an argument with you or with anyone else for that matter....it was a comment. And yes, I know, you are responding to my comment, and I respect you on that, but in all honesty, people's words are taken out of context, and you know that as well as I do, whether you will admit it or not. There are people that clearly see Hinn as a false teacher and some who dont....and we should respect one another on that, and no matter what your views maybe here, I wont judge you on them, but I will show you respect and kindness on your beliefs.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:12:44 PM
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ORIGINAL: misty35 quote:
ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience quote:
ORIGINAL: misty35 quote:
ORIGINAL: gennaoanothen if every one Else's words are taking out of context, why would not Benny's be too? I think this is a fair question.... Ok, then what is the context of his words? Like I said Moody, I think its a very fair question...this is done everyday, and I see it done on these forums alot. I did not post for an argument with you or with anyone else for that matter....it was a comment. And yes, I know, you are responding to my comment, and I respect you on that, but in all honesty, people's words are taken out of context, and you know that as well as I do, whether you will admit it or not. There are people that clearly see Hinn as a false teacher and some who dont....and we should respect one another on that, and no matter what your views maybe here, I wont judge you on them, but I will show you respect and kindness on your beliefs. It is also the point of this thread to discuss Benny Hinn and whether he is a false teacher or not. What I see is the people who claim he is a false teacher have a whole thread full of video and text evidence that he is and the people who don't believe is a false teacher have alot of "Don't judge". Now I would like nothing more than for Benny Hinn to repent and either leave the cespool that is TBN or use his show to teach some solid Biblical truths. Like I said before if he did that I would be in line to shake his hand. If any of the evidence in this thread is taken out of context, please show me. Not just you, anybody.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:22:27 PM
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But we know that Jesus said to forgive our enimies and pray for them that persucute you, so when does the forgivness and prayer start after 20 years?
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:24:27 PM
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misty35: Like I said Moody, I think its a very fair question...this is done everyday, and I see it done on these forums alot. I did not post for an argument with you or with anyone else for that matter....it was a comment. And yes, I know, you are responding to my comment, and I respect you on that, but in all honesty, people's words are taken out of context, and you know that as well as I do, whether you will admit it or not. The question is HOW are Benny Hinn's words being taken out of context, which you have yet to explain. Until you can do the following - 1. Reconcile Hinn's teachings to the Bible 2. Fully explain how Hinn's words are being taken out of context here - then there is no point in further discussion with you. All you have done in this thread is tell others they have taken things out of context and are wrong for speaking against Hinn's teachings without giving an explanation as to why.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:24:31 PM
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Psalm 109 And what exactly is the point of posting this? Or do you just like posting random scriptures?
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:27:40 PM
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ORIGINAL: gennaoanothen But we know that Jesus said to forgive our enimies and pray for them that persucute you, so when does the forgivness and prayer start after 20 years? I pray for him that he sincerely repents of his false teachings and that he stops fleecing the flock. But until he does it is my duty as a Christian to sound the alarm and warn as many as I can.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:28:21 PM
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misty35: Like I said Moody, I think its a very fair question...this is done everyday, and I see it done on these forums alot. I did not post for an argument with you or with anyone else for that matter....it was a comment. And yes, I know, you are responding to my comment, and I respect you on that, but in all honesty, people's words are taken out of context, and you know that as well as I do, whether you will admit it or not. The question is HOW are Benny Hinn's words being taken out of context, which you have yet to explain. Until you can do the following - 1. Reconcile Hinn's teachings to the Bible 2. Fully explain how Hinn's words are being taken out of context here - then there is no point in further discussion with you. All you have done in this thread is tell others they have taken things out of context and are wrong for speaking against Hinn's teachings without giving an explanation as to why. LOL...if you dont want any further discussion with me, dont comment to my post, simple. :)
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:29:53 PM
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misty35: Like I said Moody, I think its a very fair question...this is done everyday, and I see it done on these forums alot. I did not post for an argument with you or with anyone else for that matter....it was a comment. And yes, I know, you are responding to my comment, and I respect you on that, but in all honesty, people's words are taken out of context, and you know that as well as I do, whether you will admit it or not. The question is HOW are Benny Hinn's words being taken out of context, which you have yet to explain. Until you can do the following - 1. Reconcile Hinn's teachings to the Bible 2. Fully explain how Hinn's words are being taken out of context here - then there is no point in further discussion with you. All you have done in this thread is tell others they have taken things out of context and are wrong for speaking against Hinn's teachings without giving an explanation as to why. LOL...if you dont want any further discussion with me, dont comment to my post, simple. :) Nice cop-out.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:30:55 PM
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Sigh 39 pages of evidence - video, audio, written. 39 pages of testing all things in light of Scripture and holding onto that which is good. 39 pages of a dozen or so individuals saying that Hinn is not a false prophet (which is irrefutable that he is) and saying that he is not a false teacher (which is irrefutable that he is) and when a Christian simply asks, "can you please show us, with the Word, how Benny Hinn's teachings, failed prophecies and claims are not false - they deflect and dodge. Very telling...
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:31:23 PM
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ORIGINAL: gennaoanothen if every one Else's words are taking out of context, why would not Benny's be too? I think this is a fair question.... Ok, then what is the context of his words? Like I said Moody, I think its a very fair question...this is done everyday, and I see it done on these forums alot. I did not post for an argument with you or with anyone else for that matter....it was a comment. And yes, I know, you are responding to my comment, and I respect you on that, but in all honesty, people's words are taken out of context, and you know that as well as I do, whether you will admit it or not. There are people that clearly see Hinn as a false teacher and some who dont....and we should respect one another on that, and no matter what your views maybe here, I wont judge you on them, but I will show you respect and kindness on your beliefs. It is also the point of this thread to discuss Benny Hinn and whether he is a false teacher or not. What I see is the people who claim he is a false teacher have a whole thread full of video and text evidence that he is and the people who don't believe is a false teacher have alot of "Don't judge". Now I would like nothing more than for Benny Hinn to repent and either leave the cespool that is TBN or use his show to teach some solid Biblical truths. Like I said before if he did that I would be in line to shake his hand. If any of the evidence in this thread is taken out of context, please show me. Not just you, anybody. it is not my responsibility to show, it is the responsibility of those that accuse, to know the entire context of a persons statments and ministry. Besides, I have provided the entire context of others, who have been slandered, and the posts are just dodged, so why should I spend my time, searching through his writtings to bring up the context, I have done that already concerning posts against others, and some of the accusations against Benny, were made against them. people are set in there ways, and are not willing to examine anything. Jesus will straigten it out.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:31:35 PM
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misty35: Like I said Moody, I think its a very fair question...this is done everyday, and I see it done on these forums alot. I did not post for an argument with you or with anyone else for that matter....it was a comment. And yes, I know, you are responding to my comment, and I respect you on that, but in all honesty, people's words are taken out of context, and you know that as well as I do, whether you will admit it or not. The question is HOW are Benny Hinn's words being taken out of context, which you have yet to explain. Until you can do the following - 1. Reconcile Hinn's teachings to the Bible 2. Fully explain how Hinn's words are being taken out of context here - then there is no point in further discussion with you. All you have done in this thread is tell others they have taken things out of context and are wrong for speaking against Hinn's teachings without giving an explanation as to why. LOL...if you dont want any further discussion with me, dont comment to my post, simple. :) Nice cop-out. As, I will state as I did in my PM to you moody, I apologize if I have offended you, that was not my intention.
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:33:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: gennaoanothen it is not my responsibility to show, it is the responsibility of those that accuse, to know the entire context of a persons statments and ministry. Besides, I have provided the entire context of others, who have been slandered, and the posts are just dodged, so why should I spend my time, searching through his writtings to bring up the context, I have done that already concerning posts against others, and some of the accusations against Benny, were made against them. people are set in there ways, and are not willing to examine anything. Jesus will straigten it out. How is prophesying (thus saith the Lord) that all homosexuals would die by fire by a certain year..." and that did not come to pass not make it a failed prophecy? What, please do tell, is the "missing context"?
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:43:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: themoodyexperience Psalm 109 And what exactly is the point of posting this? Or do you just like posting random scriptures? the point is even in the Bible men of God were upset with the way people spoke against them
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RE: The One Stop Thread For All Things Benny Hinn - 11/8/2008 2:44:57 PM
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ORIGINAL: gennaoanothen if every one Else's words are taking out of context, why would not Benny's be too? I think this is a fair question.... Ok, then what is the context of his words? Like I said Moody, I think its a very fair question...this is done everyday, and I see it done on these forums alot. I did not post for an argument with you or with anyone else for that matter....it was a comment. And yes, I know, you are responding to my comment, and I respect you on that, but in all honesty, people's words are taken out of context, and you know that as well as I do, whether you will admit it or not. There are people that clearly see Hinn as a false teacher and some who dont....and we should respect one another on that, and no matter what your views maybe here, I wont judge you on them, but I will show you respect and kindness on your beliefs. It is also the point of this thread to discuss Benny Hinn and whether he is a false teacher or not. What I see is the people who claim he is a false teacher have a whole thread full of video and text evidence that he is and the people who don't believe is a false teacher have alot of "Don't judge". Now I would like nothing more than for Benny Hinn to repent and either leave the cespool that is TBN or use his show to teach some solid Biblical truths. Like I said before if he did that I would be in line to shake his hand. If any of the evidence in this thread is taken out of context, please show me. Not just you, anybody. it is not my responsibility to show, it is the responsibility of those that accuse, to know the entire context of a persons statments and ministry. Besides, I have provided the entire context of others, who have been slandered, and the posts are just dodged, so why should I spend my time, searching through his writtings to bring up the context, I have done that already concerning posts against others, and some of the accusations against Benny, were made against them. people are set in there ways, and are not willing to examine anything. Jesus will straigten it out. Just as it is the responsibility of those who believe he is a false teacher, it is the responsibility of those defending him to prove he is not. If i have overlooked the posts where you did this, please remind me of some exact post numbers.
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