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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/12/2008 5:35:57 PM
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ORIGINAL: kingdust
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This means Christians who meet in Jesus' name work together for His cause and agreement. Where again the pagan cannot agree upon what the Holy Spirit teaches unless first that pagan becomes a Christian and then the Holy Spirit begins to teach him or her personally through scripture and other Christians what to do.
When a pagan becomes a Christian nominally, I bet you that his/her 100% pagan quality will influence his/her Christianity.
That is what happened when the Christianity became 'universal' by the order of an emperor of Rome.
Even when a pagan became a true born again Christian, he/she is still with the pagan quality that is not done being killed.
The old self is the bottom line of this pagan influence on Christianity.
If you don't see this old self as pagan, you are missing the true Christianity, and may be attracted to other religions or go back to OT religion like Galatians, or like the OP.
Hello kingdust!
Yes I know the old self is the sinful nature that is at work in each of us. The old self is in conflict with the new self. I understand what you are saying. We Christians will have this battle between the old/new self until the day we die. So when we come across a pagan, who doesn't know Christ Jesus, it is at this point where we share the new self. And hopefully, when the pagan does believe in Jesus, we ourselves won't have to use too much comparison of the old and new as we're so accustomed too.
Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/12/2008 6:57:17 PM
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When a pagan becomes a Christian nominally, I bet you that his/her 100% pagan quality will influence his/her Christianity.
That is what happened when the Christianity became 'universal' by the order of an emperor of Rome.
Today, the vast majority of Christian teenagers have warm feelings towards the gospel, while not really believing it. Their parents consecrated them to Caesar, rather than to Christ, by giving them to agents of Caesar to raise in the cult of Caesar. This chart is, to those with eyes to read, quite alarming. Can 5% of the next generation provide sufficient seasoning to prevent total corruption in America?
Let's bring this a little closer to home. To what extent is my thinking shaped by godless influences? And what can I do today to rinse a few more of those false notions out of my mind and behavior?
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/13/2008 6:49:21 AM
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Yes I know the old self is the sinful nature that is at work in each of us. The old self is in conflict with the new self. I understand what you are saying. We Christians will have this battle between the old/new self until the day we die.
I mentioned the good old self (?) because OP seemed to focus on the outside influences and wants us to focus on their claims in their writings.
Why should we waste our time reading their bogus claims while we can read the Bible, which is the only book in the whole world that tells the truth, and get in-depth understanding of the pagan influence through out the OT and NT times until now.
After the godly Noah came Ham, Ishmael from Abraham, Esau from Isaac, etc.
Who influenced them to be ungodly?
After crossing the Red Sea, the chosen people of God made and worshiped the golden calf.
No pagan king Pharaoh was there to make them.
Many false prophets in Israel, not from the pagan nations, prophesied falsely in the name of God, influenced by own imagination, none else.
Saint Peter once called, ‘Satan’, when he strongly expressed his own conviction- keeping Jesus alive as a faithful follower should do faithfully.
After being saved by the grace of God, many NT believers went back to the good old law (?) and try to fulfill the law by their self effort.
After reading about Jesus whose mane is to be too far above any all names, many sincere believers place other human names next to Him and worship humanity, dead or alive.
Some believers serve the mammon god in the name of the word of faith moment.
Many NT prophets prophesied that Christianity is corrupted and in need of the new revelation to replace it with their new revelations, like Joseph Smith of Mormon, Mrs. Baker of Christian Science, Mr. Russell of SDA, even Beny Hynn.
Many insist that their private interpretation or own understanding is true to the original meaning, purpose and limit and reject whatever is not agree with MHO.
What is the very common factor among those influenced or influential in the Christian OT and NT house?
It is the good old self that is alive and kicking against God the Father in OT, God the Son before and God the Spirit now.
I said, ‘the good old self’, because I don’t want to offend many good people who don’t believe the good old self as sinner, much less ‘evil’.
It can only be good, apart from God, in the god-ful world with gods made by man or man-gods, which has been gods of pagan.
If you know how people of Israel made gods, you know how pagan made gods, even without seeing or hearing from them.
If you really understand your self in the true light of the Bible, you surely can see yourself as a god-maker or even being a god yourself, far worse than being a mere worshiper of pagan gods or simply being influenced by the pagan philosophy.
The OP wants to bypass this good pagan quality within.
And I refused to go along- that is all.
Ps, I didn’t mean you as Jessica, but you in general.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/13/2008 7:03:34 AM
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Let's bring this a little closer to home. To what extent is my thinking shaped by godless influences? And what can I do today to rinse a few more of those false notions out of my mind and behavior?
I think 'my self' being slain by the Spirit of God can root out the source of the problem in order to clean out the room for the Holy One to live as mine.
I said that based on the NT commandant of 'putting self to death' in order for the new self born by the Spirit of God to grow influential.
If pagan self is killed, rejected if you will, no pagan influence can influence the new self.
If liberal self is denied, no liberal living is possible.
One pagan self dead means one less pagan to influence.
If you do your part, I mine, we have two less pagan to deal with.
How about that?
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/13/2008 3:13:53 PM
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"because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. For even though they knew God, they did not honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. "
If Romans 1:19-23 (above) is true, then we would expect to find certain similarities between Pagan and Christian traditions. God reveals much of His truth directly to all people. Some follow that light to find more, some speculate through their darkened, foolish hearts and pervert the truth they have seen.
Did the Mayans (and many others pagans cultures all over the world) get the idea of a pure, innocent sacrifice from the Jews/Christians or the other way around? That's a faulty question; there was no cultural exchange between the Americas and the old world. Sometimes, even with such important and prominent similarities, there was not one culture who copied another. To assume influence when it may not be there can obviously lead to faulty conclusions.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/15/2008 9:47:43 AM
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Why should we waste our time reading their bogus claims while we can read the Bible, which is the only book in the whole world that tells the truth, and get in-depth understanding of the pagan influence through out the OT and NT times until now.
The Apostle Paul recognized that paganism did hold some truth (although mixed with error), because he quoted pagan writers in his preaching and teaching. (This also implies that he was familiar with them.)
Ignoring challenges doesn't strengthen faith. Followers of pseudo-Christian cults allow their leaders to tell them what they may or may not read; those who are in error and want to remain that way have good cause to fear honest questions and criticisms. Those who are well-grounded in truth need not fear them.
The cultural isolationism that American fundamentalism retreated into after the Scopes Trial might be good at producing feelings of certitude among its adherents, but it does a poor job of providing robust answers to the outside world. And it's very offensive to honest seekers when someone tells them they are wrong before honestly listening to them. The Bible is a sword that cuts to the heart of the matter, not a club to beat people down with.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/15/2008 4:02:46 PM
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Here is a good link that speaks to that: http://www.leestrobel.com/videoserver/video.php?clip=strobelT1085
It's important to look at both sides. I believe when you, you will have to see that Jesus really is the Christ. Just the prophecy that is in the Old Testament is enough to make it just about impossible to think otherwise. With the Dead Sea scrolls we know that Isaiah, in its entirety, was written well before the birth of Christ. I love the way God proves Himself to us, and for those of us who do have questions...most of them have real answers, you just have to find someone willing and knowledgable to speak up with the whole truth, not just part of it.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/15/2008 7:51:41 PM
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The Bible begins with the beginning of time!!!!
paganism supposedly began in the Middle Ages for druids/celts etc. I hope i remember correctly..sorry if I do not, but I totally believe in the Bible's explanation of our world's beginning.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/19/2008 6:26:37 AM
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kingdust
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The Apostle Paul recognized that paganism did hold some truth (although mixed with error), because he quoted pagan writers in his preaching and teaching. (This also implies that he was familiar with them.)
Right and agreed.
A lot more Christian scholars and pastors also study and know, and quote pagan ways of thinking and practicing, in their teaching and preaching.
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Ignoring challenges doesn't strengthen faith. Followers of pseudo-Christian cults allow their leaders to tell them what they may or may not read; those who are in error and want to remain that way have good cause to fear honest questions and criticisms. Those who are well-grounded in truth need not fear them.
My response to the suggestion of searching and studying the pagan things was only for the average believers , who don’t have in depth understanding of the Bible or spend a little time in searching for the truth in it, not to ignore but ‘not to be lured’ into getting tangled with unclean thoughts of pagan.
I heard the best way to pick out the counterfeit money is not to study the counterfeit money but to study and to be familiar with the true money.
By the same token, to know the Bible is to know the pagan way of thinking.
If you really know the Bible, you should be able to pick out the errors in paganism plus any religions and cults.
For instance, if you know how a god is made according to the Bible description, you can understand how pagans make their gods or things about God.
Here is a recipe on how to make a god, by Isaiah.
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ISA 44:12 The blacksmith takes a tool
and works with it in the coals;
he shapes an idol with hammers,
he forges it with the might of his arm.
He gets hungry and loses his strength;
he drinks no water and grows faint.
ISA 44:13 The carpenter measures with a line
and makes an outline with a marker;
he roughs it out with chisels
and marks it with compasses.
He shapes it in the form of man,
of man in all his glory,
that it may dwell in a shrine.
You can read the rest of the chapter for yourself to really understand how pagan thoughts are in work.
If you stopped only at a physical idol, you are stopped way too short only to see the forest, not trees and rocks, only physical aspects not spiritual.
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The cultural isolationism that American fundamentalism retreated into after the Scopes Trial might be good at producing feelings of certitude among its adherents, but it does a poor job of providing robust answers to the outside world. And it's very offensive to honest seekers when someone tells them they are wrong before honestly listening to them. The Bible is a sword that cuts to the heart of the matter, not a club to beat people down with.
It seems like isolationism but that is the way it is for the only way, the only truth and the only life, fundamentally speaking.
Yes, you still can be tactful not to insult or shut out others in their way, truth and life, but you don’t want to compromise for the sake of being good and open minded.
At the end, you must tell the truth from error, right from wrong, or sheep from goat separating yourself from goats- that is for your own good.
Do you really know the Bible so that you can spare some time and explore into paganism?
Are you a scholar or an average believer having not enough time even to read the Bible everyday?
If you don’t really know the Bible, you really can’t understand the paganism, and your studying paganism can only mess up your Bible weak mind.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/19/2008 8:19:39 AM
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Many would argue that Christianity (real biblical Christianity) started with the beginning of mankind, of our known time and existence. In that it all started with "In the beginning....."
I agree, the original worship of GOD in heaven by Lucifer and other angels was what they learned before they were expelled for sin. So in other words the pagan learned from the righteous, the ways of worship. Also, some things are common in following a religion, lifting of hands, praying, worshiping with other believers, and fasting.
All apart of worship, it's just who or what you worship.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 1/19/2008 4:07:32 PM
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I once heard this explanation: At the time of the tower of Babel, all the people were living in the same place with the same language, etc. Then God confused their languages and the people spread out all over the earth. These people (the original ones who were all together before the tower of Babel) had grown up with what was known from their ancestors; Creation, The Flood, etc. They must have recieved the Truth from those living at the time who believed the Truth, even tho it had not been written down yet. So when they scattered, they took the stories that they had learned, but since all were not true believers, the stories became twisted over time, so that we now have the Gilgamesh Epic, for example, which is similar to the Noah Flood story, and so on. So my conclusion is that paganism borrowed from the Truth as it was known to those early people. Christianity did NOT "borrow" from Paganism
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 2/4/2008 6:54:46 PM
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Paganism lives on borrowed capital; but it is God Who has given the capital.
Christianity utilized what the common man believed and understood in order to point to the realities of the Christian faith. After all, how else are you going to communicate except through the medium of the culture, language and history that you find yourself in?
I offer St. Athanasious' "On the Incarnation" for an explanation of these so-called "paganisms" at the link below.
http://www.spurgeon.org/~phil/history/ath-inc.htm
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 2/28/2008 11:30:56 PM
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Christmas covered up -yule.
Christmas was originally a pagan festival. The time of the year and the
ceremonies with which it is still celebrated, prove its origin
The term "Yule" is the Babylonian name for "infant" or little child
this is also some times called the winter solstice.
Santa has Eight Reindeer. Reindeer are symbolic of the Pagan Stag god. The number 8 is the number for a new beginning, and, when laid on its side, is the occultic symbol for Infinity.
all of the x-mas traditions are based on paganisim.
All Saints day (halloween) overed up -samhain.
In ancient Britain and Ireland, the Celtic festival of Samhain which is used for honoring the dead.
Ezekiel 8:13,14 tells us what God thinks about any festival that recognizes Tammuz
Easter covered -Beltain
Easter is not a Christian name it is Chaldean (Babylonian) in origin
The (Easter) bunny, the oldest pagan symbol of fertility
In addition, Jesus was not resurrected on Sunday
almost every holiday that is commonly celebrated can be traced to pagan roots, including the lowly Ground Hog day and Valentine's day.
Christianity paved over the pagan ways ( a way the sweep it under the carpet)
Dont be offended by any of this, but this is all historically, documented fact. look it up.
and that can never be changed
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 2/29/2008 12:34:54 PM
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To the OP:
There are so, so many ways in which pagan religions have influenced Christianity, which in turn influenced society as we know it, and vice versa, you really should take some time to read all about it.
Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Valentine's Day, the names of the days of the weeks and the months, superstitions, dress, rituals, beliefs - the list goes on.
A lot of origin stories are very similiar, a lot of underlying beliefs are similiar, if not the same.
I had a wonderful conversation one time, several years ago, that really kickstarted a general interest in religions, paganism and Wicca into actual research (I had entertained the idea of writing a book), about the similarities between Calvin ( and Christianity) and Alex Gardner (and Wicca).
Here's one book I own
and another
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 2/29/2008 10:30:54 PM
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There are so, so many ways in which pagan religions have influenced Christianity, which in turn influenced society as we know it, and vice versa, you really should take some time to read all about it.
Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Valentine's Day, the names of the days of the weeks and the months, superstitions, dress, rituals, beliefs - the list goes on.
The sad truth is the church has attempted to Christianize some pagan practices in order to assimilate societies pagan cultures. However, this does not lead us to the conclusion that the core doctrines or practices were influenced by paganism. The reasons why the church attempted to Christianize these pagan practices requires more than glib statements about the "true" nature of Christianity. It is however a powerful warning against making the same mistake in today's world, which some factions of the church are doing by participating in prayer labyrinths and promoting comprimising doctrine to appease an ever increasing anti-Christian culture.
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To the OP:
There are so, so many ways in which pagan religions have influenced Christianity, which in turn influenced society as we know it, and vice versa, you really should take some time to read all about it.
Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Valentine's Day, the names of the days of the weeks and the months, superstitions, dress, rituals, beliefs - the list goes on.
A lot of origin stories are very similiar, a lot of underlying beliefs are similiar, if not the same.
I had a wonderful conversation one time, several years ago, that really kickstarted a general interest in religions, paganism and Wicca into actual research (I had entertained the idea of writing a book), about the similarities between Calvin ( and Christianity) and Alex Gardner (and Wicca).
The answers provided by previous posters are good answers to why similarities exist between Christian accounts of real history and pagan myths of every variety...including wicca.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 3/1/2008 1:57:32 AM
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When a pagan becomes a Christian nominally, I bet you that his/her 100% pagan quality will influence his/her Christianity.
That is what happened when the Christianity became 'universal' by the order of an emperor of Rome.
Even when a pagan became a true born again Christian, he/she is still with the pagan quality that is not done being killed.
The old self is the bottom line of this pagan influence on Christianity.
If you don't see this old self as pagan, you are missing the true Christianity, and may be attracted to other religions or go back to OT religion like Galatians, or like the OP.
Pagan and heathen mean same. They basically worship falsehood. Christ is the truth and truth saves. If go away from truth we degrade and destroy ourselves. We have to convert ourselves to truth by painful cross bearing. But falsehood is enchanting. Unconverted general ‘Christians’ and humanity are worshipping again that now. pagans worship falsehood.
Recently I visited a remote village church on Sunday. Seeing the scanty attendance I enquired. They said that there was a night opera nearby. So the members are sleeping now. Fortunately there was only a few T.V. here as that village was without electricity. In towns T.V. is in every house. There people often prefer T.V. serials than church. The young people suffer most as their study, exercise, work, morality all suffer. Very few of them attend prayer meetings. Even while traveling I can’t concentrate on prayer and meditation as fellow passengers’ mobile “love” songs disturb.
I left the imaginary gods that couldnot save me, fifty years ago to come to Christ. Before that I was a cinema addict. By Christ’s power I left all falsehoods of cinema, opera, games, ‘love’ songs etc. but now I see all around these new false gods. Actors, commercial singers and players, novels, thrillers are taking over.
Devil is the master of lies. He bewitches all by enticing falsehoods to draw them to eternal death. those who are enamored in the unreal cant face the stark reality of the world and the struggle for life. So the new heathens are perishing faster than the old heathens by worsiping false gods. Old gods are also coming again in Europe and America.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 3/1/2008 7:30:53 PM
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A lot of our holidays now come from Pagans. These were taken during the Christian persecution of the Pagans. Our Halloween, Thanksgiving are just a few examples.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 3/1/2008 9:11:15 PM
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Not that this is a "fun" topic, but it did make me chuckle.
When I pointed out the origins of Easter - a fertility ritual - you know bunnies, eggs.
Well I got thoroughly stomped.
Ummm yea whatever.
The church "set" religious holidays to appease early Christians who wanted to have "celebrations" at the same time. Halloween is a "low" holiday as Easter and Christmas correlate to "high" holidays. That is the truth and while I understand that is now what we are celebrating, it's probably good to not be ignorant of the truth either.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 3/1/2008 9:12:07 PM
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Pffft..
Someone pass the Cadbury eggs.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 3/1/2008 9:56:41 PM
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A lot of our holidays now come from Pagans. These were taken during the Christian persecution of the Pagans. Our Halloween, Thanksgiving are just a few examples.
How is thanksgiving a pagan holiday might I ask?
There have been several days for giving thanks, all the way back to the feasts.
When the US was young, people did celebrate various days as well.
Abraham Lincoln appointed the last thursday in November as an official day "in which we can all remember to give thanks to God". Other days of thanks have since horned in on it, including the "indian and pilgrim" remembrance.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 3/2/2008 7:33:21 AM
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ORIGINAL: Two
A lot of our holidays now come from Pagans. These were taken during the Christian persecution of the Pagans. Our Halloween, Thanksgiving are just a few examples.
How is thanksgiving a pagan holiday might I ask?
There have been several days for giving thanks, all the way back to the feasts.
When the US was young, people did celebrate various days as well.
Abraham Lincoln appointed the last thursday in November as an official day "in which we can all remember to give thanks to God". Other days of thanks have since horned in on it, including the "indian and pilgrim" remembrance.
Research the Christian persecution of the Pagans. We as Christians are not always right you know.
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RE: Pagan influences on Christianity - 3/2/2008 7:50:28 AM
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I wasn't saying it's evil to use traditions - I ate eggs and bunnies for twenty some years and my head never spun around - just saying it's the true origin of the tradition.
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