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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/29/2008 10:51:15 PM
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Homegrownkids
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Any definate book reads for your 8th grader or you going to just kind of let her/him pick and choose?
I might buy the Starting Points for her, but not for a while yet. Right now, we are both picking and choosing some books for her to read. She picks a lot of things that are related to History. I have 3-4 books that I'd like her to read through before I give her the Starting Points.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/29/2008 11:57:07 PM
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cynthia
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I guess I should have mentioned that we have been using The Story of the World and are in the 3rd volume. I'm not sure if the 4th volume would count as a high school course. I think she will read it anyway. I may have to find something else for US History, but it will need to be in story form. What is the LLATL for high school? Has anyone used this?
I have looked at Story of the World. It didn't look meaty enough for junior high and I cannot imagine using it as a high school course unless you use it as the spine and work from there. Did you check out the Notgrass link I posted for you?
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Any definite book reads for your 8th grader or you going to just kind of let her/him pick and choose?
I might buy the Starting Points for her, but not for a while yet. Right now, we are both picking and choosing some books for her to read. She picks a lot of things that are related to History. I have 3-4 books that I'd like her to read through before I give her the Starting Points.
I have a list of books that I use for my children. They have one hour of assigned reader per day, in addition to any reading that is required with their other subjects. For example, TL is currently reading two books for Starting Points. She is also reading a biography on John Adams.
Here are some books that my 8th grader has read for her assigned reading this year:
Martin Luther, from the Heroes of the Faith series 11/07
Crispin; The Cross of Lead, by Avi 9/07
The Call of the Wild, Jack London 10/07
A Taste of Chaucer 9/07
What Really Happened During the Middle Ages? 09/07
Martin Luther, by J.A. Morrison 10/07
John Bunyan, Tinker of Bedford 12/07
A Christmas Carol, by Charles Dickens (11/07)
Captain’s Courageous (11/07)
Freckles, by Gene Stratton Porter (12/07)
Kidnapped, by Robert Lewis Stephenson (12/07)
The Wind in the Willows (1/08)
The Vikings, by Elizabeth Janeway (1/08)
William Bradford Pilgrim Boy, by Bradford Smith (1/08)
Of Plymouth Plantation, by William Bradford (2/08)
Johnny Tremain, by Esther Forbes (3/08)
Westward Ho! (this is a huge, long book 634 pages long)2/08
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/30/2008 12:24:13 AM
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Regarding Notgrass American History, it looks like a wonderful program. I am excited to get it. I understand why they give a literature credit for it, but the focus is history, not literature. While it uses literature, for history, I don’t really see it as a literature program. Due to this, we are going to use a separate literature program to cover American literature, after we get done with Starting Points. I want a literature program where the purpose is to study American literature and is focused specifically on the literature, not on the history of the time period. The reason for this is that there are many books I think ought to be covered that are not historically significant in terms of learning any real history from them, but are important for their literary content.
I am considering American Literature, by James P. Stobaugh for ninth grade, after she is finished with Starting Points. This covers a lot of literature in one year, but I think she will be able to handle it. We might not be able to completely finish it, but combined with Starting Points and Notgrass, she will have no trouble with completing an her American Literature credit. I hope to be able to find and review this curriculum at the state homeschool convention this year.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/30/2008 1:37:18 AM
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I guess I should have mentioned that we have been using The Story of the World and are in the 3rd volume. I'm not sure if the 4th volume would count as a high school course. I think she will read it anyway. I may have to find something else for US History, but it will need to be in story form.
I have looked at Story of the World. It didn't look meaty enough for junior high and I cannot imagine using it as a high school course unless you use it as the spine and work from there.
We are using Story of the World as well. I intended it to be for my younger kids, but since we read it aloud my 16 yo is listening, and she is finding it helpful. She is a "big picture" kind of kid and likes the overview that Story of the World gives her. Then she jumps off to use other resources that are more appropriate for high school. I definitely agree that SOTW would not work as your only history program, but it gives you a running timeline of the major events in history.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 3/30/2008 1:04:56 PM
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I looked at the Notgrass and it looks great. I will go to conference in May and they always have a booth. I am going to let my dd look also and see what she thinks. I think I will supplement a different literature program. Thanks for the input.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 4/10/2008 11:33:09 PM
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I have age gaps also. This fall I will have an 8th gr, 7th gr, 5th gr, and K. I find it difficult to get the K in there. She has just turned 6. I am still sitting down with my 4th grader, and correcting the 6th and 7th grader's work and by the time I need to "do school" with the K, I am pooped. We also have a baby, too. So I have 5 years between the 4th gr and 6 yr old and another 5 yrs between the 6 yr old and the baby. I'm hoping next year will go a little smoother. My oldest 2 are getting quite independant, my 4th..soon to be 5th grader is getting more independant also.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 4/11/2008 9:32:33 AM
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I have used: online courses with Univ of Oklahoma and Univ of Nebraska web courses
traditional public school textbooks
Cynthia,
When my daughter took these courses (they are expensive though- around $550 a course), I did not have to grade anything or assign anything. As our relationship was strained, this was the best plan- LOL!
She wrote down the page numbers of each assignment, so I use the same textbooks I already paid for and the same assignment she had for subsequent students.
I do have to grade things myself now though: the essays will all need graded. I also had to make up my own tests, but only once- I saved it on my computer, and now I print it off and give it to subsequent students. Of course I made an answer key.
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Beginnings Publishing Science
Written by home-schooling dad and PH. D. educator, Dr.Dobbins, I can not praise it enough. The textbook and labs are written to the student, with the intent that the student is self-educating. I only have to grade things, and if they need me for a lab, they are instructed in the lab to get an adult to help. Oldest two are doing chemistry now.
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Saxon math program
I know others here don't like it, but it is self-teaching for my children. They rarely ask for help. I just grade papers and hand out tests.
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Private language tutoring after completing Rosetta Stone
One is also doing Switched on Schoolhouse Spanish. All I have to do is log and grade the work that needs listening to in order to grade the problem. And they have a sample audio to compare the right answer to if you don't know Spanish, which I do so I rarely use.
Private tutor gives assignments and write up a summary grade. All I do is write the check.
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Beautiful Feet Guides to US and World History
I only assign essays at the completion of each book. Otherwise, I ask for them to write a reader response after each reading assignment. I only look to see that there are daily entries. I rarely read them, but I do spot check them so students don't get lazy. Randomly, I go over discussion questions as I have time, to make sure they are comprehending.
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local seminars, co-ops, etc.
Again, I write a check, drop them off. I really shouldn't write co-op, because I only sign up for classes that local co-ops open to non-members. I am not a joiner, by any means. I find that my dd learns plenty from intensive weekend workshops (math, writing, test prep). I expect the same from my other students.
I also have older students helping younger students, peer review of essays before I ever see them, and let students give oral responses to the history readings when we are having a busy week.
When mine were young, I bought BJUPress and followed the teacher's guides to the letter. That is a lot of work!!!
Starting with middle school, I weaned them to Switched on Schoolhouse, Easy Grammar, Wordly Wise (love the Friday writing!) and Rainbow Science. My goal is that every year their work would be more and more self-directed.
One of my students, having finished the assigned chapters in the Biology textbook, is now doing the rest of the book because she loves biology. 
My boys still need to be given directions daily, but the oldest (and only other girl) is pretty much totally self-directed.
They all want to succeed in college and life. I think that makes the biggest difference.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 4/11/2008 11:42:45 AM
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Thank you, Shadowspring. That was informative.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 4/21/2008 8:27:30 PM
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I am new to the forums but very glad to have found this. I will have to check out Notgrass as I have not heard of them before.
I was wondering if any one had a sugestion for a good curriculum or book on writting. The focus needs to be essays, especially those on tests. Sd has an awful time writting her essay and would love to work on that next year.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 4/21/2008 9:06:57 PM
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Well, I put my dd in a weekend seminar workshop on the SAT essay. Then I bought some SAT Practice Tests.
Using the prompts she got at the weekend seminar, we practiced underlining the question and outlining a response.
Using the SAT practice tests, she got twelve prompts to write a response to under the time controls.
I am sure there are better answers out there, but that's what we did.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 5/27/2008 7:54:51 AM
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We are using Notgrass for History and Lightning Literature for Lit.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 5/27/2008 2:07:55 PM
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We are planning to use Notrass for American history and literature next year, but am concerned that it is not as indepth, at least on the literature part, as other programs. It only includes 13 books, in addition to other documents. My dd read around 30 books this year. I can't see going from 30 to 13. I am thinking of adding another literature program to the Notgrass. We started World View Primer this year, but got sidetracked and didn't get very far, so I think we will be doing both of these programs next year.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 5/28/2008 3:59:13 PM
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Can I ask any of you what you are using for a Writing Program? My DD has not had a whole lot of formal writing. I looked at Write at Home and another on-line program and got all excited about it until I looked at the cost. I was hoping to find something VERY affordable. I asked my DD how she liked Writing Strands level 3 and it was "okay"... she wasn't crazy about it. But, she is the type that will tell me she doesn't like any of the "popular" homeschool products out there.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 5/28/2008 4:04:40 PM
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We have mostly used Learning Language Arts Through Literature, where they do some writing. We are about to purchase the IEW (Institute for Excellence in Writing) program. It is spendy, but well worth it. I will be able to use it for all three children and it is very important that my eldest is prepared for college writing. The IEW program prepares kids for college writing.
My eldest took a class last year that was based on the IEW program. She did quite well and enjoyed it a lot.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 5/28/2008 4:18:49 PM
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We're using IEW too. You might be able to find it used to help bring down the cost. I bought Teaching Writing with Structure and Style at a covention a couple of years ago and a friend is letting us borrow her set of Student Writing Intensive. Joe's going to do their US History Based Writing Lessons next year along with his 11th grade US history course.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 5/28/2008 4:41:45 PM
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I am a bit confused about what to purchase for IEW, but I will speak to the rep at the convention. I have a few booths that I plan to go to first thing in the morning and then move around from there.
TL will be attending both days of convention with me. She is overwhelmed by all of this. I didn't realize it would overwhelm her, so I'm going to have to back off a bit. However, I am ready to plunk down more money than I ever have at one time on school supplies and I want her there with me planning and preparing. She needs to be part of this process.
April through June of every year has been planning and shopping time for our homeschool. TL has not been involved in it in the past. Now I'm asking her to come along and join in, but she has no context for this. I should have started this earlier with her. I'll have to start with MM next year, so she will begin to understand the process.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 5/28/2008 11:21:57 PM
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We haven't used it you, got it last year, but didn't get chance to look at it, but a friend recommend it. Write Shop and Write Shop 2
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 6/1/2008 11:11:26 PM
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I am excited to begin homeschooling my high schoolers next year. One wants to write her own lit curriculum and one wants to study the civil war from both sides and take at least a semester to do so. Other than that we will be using Abeka curriculum. Used it before and loved it. My oldest daughter is going to take a sign language class and a braille class. They are motivated and focused and know what they want to do when they are in college.
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RE: Home Schooling High School - 6/2/2008 10:00:17 AM
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