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RE: Which one, God, Satan or Me??? - 4/9/2008 6:41:54 AM
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shurdell
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I have read quite a lot of the answers and I would have to say that I agree with most everything because a few years ago I lost my husband to a brain tumor but we didn't know what it was until it was so severe, if a passing doctor had not seen him scan, I would have lost him in two days. He was flown out for an emergency operation but I was told it was terminal. I took care of him in the city as long as I could then moved him back home by my family for the last four months. I was at a total loss each day as his condition worsened steadily until I could not leave the house and the two sisters I had there would help watch him while I went shopping and other errands. During this time, I was really new in actively seeking God but one day while he was at the hospital for my respite I dropped in to see how he was doing and in the TV room I noticed this pamphlet something like the Daily Bread and I asked the nurse who left them there. She said they weren't allowed to have them as it would offend other beliefs so I was free to take it and it was about 'Whisper of the Spirit' in communicating directly with God and there were others that I seemed to find in unusual places but they seemed to answer my questions that I didn't ask but would have I guess if I had known to ask. From this book I was told by the Holy Spirit to 'Open The Door' and I in my naivety didn't understand which of course I now know, which means to pray ceaselessly. My husband died in November of that year and went to be with the Lord. After going through a morning period but at the time still seeking the Lord, I did a term on our local council and did not win a seat for the next term. One night, as I do a lot of internet searching about God's teachings and I use my desktop bible for study, I was sitting at the computer and the Holy Spirit started speaking to me very clearly. Since my husbands death, I was like a ship lost at sea. We had built a business together and I was quickly losing it. I had well known but just couldn't muster the spirit to go it alone. I had been telling God continuously that I didn't know what to do. I prayed that He would renew my spirit for the business but it just wasn't there. One time I told Him that I would go into partnership with Him It pained me to lose all that we had worked together for but the joy was gone. When the Holy Spirit started speaking to me, He told me that He loved me. I asked Him if it was really Him and He said that He had been with me for many years, which I knew especially since I called on Him when I was eleven years old and I have known His presence in my life at least since then through all that I put Him to task through. He talked about bringing me through the fire and about my stint on council but He wanted me to work with Him on the business and that He wanted to start all new again. He told me He wanted me to give away all my product in the store. To just open the doors and give it away. I was dubious to say the least. He assured me it was Him and how much He loved me and that He was going to build me a nation. I prayed to thank him for His promise to prosper me and for taking care of me and to building a nation. He corrected me that "He was going to build ME a nation." Wow. So I called our minister to see what they had to say as nothing like this has happened before and hoping they would reason me out of it but they were out of town. So I prayed to God and asked that if it wasn't Him who asked me to do this that He would stop me on my way up there by having someone stop and actually have a conversation more than 'hello' on my way but no one stopped and as I got closer I said 'ok' God there isn't anyone on the street as the weather isn't too good so when I go to make the announcement on the cb radio (which we still use for common communication) then if He would either blow a fuse or something on the radio or cause a power outage (which is common in our area) so that my announcement doesn't go out, but it didn't happen and I made the announcement. I failed by not giving everything, just the groceries and didn't give the other more expensive items. When I got home I sat down and I asked Him if I did right. He sounded down and He said, "Sharon, I told you everything" So I agreed that the next day I would go back and give the rest. I still didn't do a great job as things got kind of hairy there and I still ended up with a few things. This was just over two months ago. I have since cleaned up and painted the interior and now I am waiting on His word or action. He has taken care of my needs. The food keeps pouring in and I haven't paid any bills since then but my needs are all taken care of. I had an instance after that when I asked God what next and He told me to rest as I was tired and I was. While I was sitting at my computer I heard who I thought was God tell me to pack my suitcase. I jumped up and though oh no, I have to do my laundry and went to put a load in. When I sat back down I heard God say, "Sharon, I told you to rest, I am not a God of confusement." The bible says, "My sheep know my voice" but I still cannot discern which or even my thoughts so I am continually asking. It would be better to know which because God speaks to us about many things including what is not in the bible. He has a sense of humor and He tells me how much He loves me and brings me back to portions of my life and I know this, He has a loving voice. He also communicates in dreams and that is the hard one at times to discern the meanings. There is so much more like radio programs that answer your problem or question or tv or a book, forum, internet site. I had to assure everyone at church I hadn't gone bankrupt or crazy. ha-ha. To-day I am going to town to buy groceries as they are hard to get here at a decent price and He said not to worry about my bills. Faith of a mustard seed. Will you come walk on the water with me?
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RE: Which one, God, Satan or Me??? - 4/9/2008 11:26:03 PM
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pws
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I guess I don't see God's people in the Bible generally wondering if God was speaking to them, and I don't see the expectation that God would normally converse with them. When He did choose to speak, He was able to make it known so that there was no question that it was him. But generally people made their decisions based on wisdom and obedience to Scripture, not based on figuring out if God was speaking to them.
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RE: Which one, God, Satan or Me??? - 4/10/2008 6:28:36 PM
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merv0448
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ORIGINAL: shurdell I have read quite a lot of the answers and I would have to say that I agree with most everything because a few years ago I lost my husband to a brain tumor but we didn't know what it was until it was so severe, if a passing doctor had not seen him scan, I would have lost him in two days. He was flown out for an emergency operation but I was told it was terminal. I took care of him in the city as long as I could then moved him back home by my family for the last four months. I was at a total loss each day as his condition worsened steadily until I could not leave the house and the two sisters I had there would help watch him while I went shopping and other errands. During this time, I was really new in actively seeking God but one day while he was at the hospital for my respite I dropped in to see how he was doing and in the TV room I noticed this pamphlet something like the Daily Bread and I asked the nurse who left them there. She said they weren't allowed to have them as it would offend other beliefs so I was free to take it and it was about 'Whisper of the Spirit' in communicating directly with God and there were others that I seemed to find in unusual places but they seemed to answer my questions that I didn't ask but would have I guess if I had known to ask. From this book I was told by the Holy Spirit to 'Open The Door' and I in my naivety didn't understand which of course I now know, which means to pray ceaselessly. My husband died in November of that year and went to be with the Lord. After going through a morning period but at the time still seeking the Lord, I did a term on our local council and did not win a seat for the next term. One night, as I do a lot of internet searching about God's teachings and I use my desktop bible for study, I was sitting at the computer and the Holy Spirit started speaking to me very clearly. Since my husbands death, I was like a ship lost at sea. We had built a business together and I was quickly losing it. I had well known but just couldn't muster the spirit to go it alone. I had been telling God continuously that I didn't know what to do. I prayed that He would renew my spirit for the business but it just wasn't there. One time I told Him that I would go into partnership with Him It pained me to lose all that we had worked together for but the joy was gone. When the Holy Spirit started speaking to me, He told me that He loved me. I asked Him if it was really Him and He said that He had been with me for many years, which I knew especially since I called on Him when I was eleven years old and I have known His presence in my life at least since then through all that I put Him to task through. He talked about bringing me through the fire and about my stint on council but He wanted me to work with Him on the business and that He wanted to start all new again. He told me He wanted me to give away all my product in the store. To just open the doors and give it away. I was dubious to say the least. He assured me it was Him and how much He loved me and that He was going to build me a nation. I prayed to thank him for His promise to prosper me and for taking care of me and to building a nation. He corrected me that "He was going to build ME a nation." Wow. So I called our minister to see what they had to say as nothing like this has happened before and hoping they would reason me out of it but they were out of town. So I prayed to God and asked that if it wasn't Him who asked me to do this that He would stop me on my way up there by having someone stop and actually have a conversation more than 'hello' on my way but no one stopped and as I got closer I said 'ok' God there isn't anyone on the street as the weather isn't too good so when I go to make the announcement on the cb radio (which we still use for common communication) then if He would either blow a fuse or something on the radio or cause a power outage (which is common in our area) so that my announcement doesn't go out, but it didn't happen and I made the announcement. I failed by not giving everything, just the groceries and didn't give the other more expensive items. When I got home I sat down and I asked Him if I did right. He sounded down and He said, "Sharon, I told you everything" So I agreed that the next day I would go back and give the rest. I still didn't do a great job as things got kind of hairy there and I still ended up with a few things. This was just over two months ago. I have since cleaned up and painted the interior and now I am waiting on His word or action. He has taken care of my needs. The food keeps pouring in and I haven't paid any bills since then but my needs are all taken care of. I had an instance after that when I asked God what next and He told me to rest as I was tired and I was. While I was sitting at my computer I heard who I thought was God tell me to pack my suitcase. I jumped up and though oh no, I have to do my laundry and went to put a load in. When I sat back down I heard God say, "Sharon, I told you to rest, I am not a God of confusement." The bible says, "My sheep know my voice" but I still cannot discern which or even my thoughts so I am continually asking. It would be better to know which because God speaks to us about many things including what is not in the bible. He has a sense of humor and He tells me how much He loves me and brings me back to portions of my life and I know this, He has a loving voice. He also communicates in dreams and that is the hard one at times to discern the meanings. There is so much more like radio programs that answer your problem or question or tv or a book, forum, internet site. I had to assure everyone at church I hadn't gone bankrupt or crazy. ha-ha. To-day I am going to town to buy groceries as they are hard to get here at a decent price and He said not to worry about my bills. Faith of a mustard seed. Will you come walk on the water with me?
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RE: Which one, God, Satan or Me??? - 4/10/2008 7:18:21 PM
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merv0448
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Relationship starts with,"Be still & know that I am God." In gen. 4:1 Adam knew Eve & in prov 3 we are told that we are to "know" God. Knew & know are the word yada, so we are supposed to know God with the same intimacy as Adam knew Eve. At first there is the honeymoon, then we get to know each other as time goes on. You would usually know your partners voice anywhere, anytime. The biggest thing is not to beat up on yourself, this isn't a test . If you have asked Jesus into your heart & asked Him to fill you with ALL of Him, then guess where the Holy Spirit is? Yes, inside of you. If the Holy Spirit is in you then He will sometimes sound like someone you know or trust, or it can sound like us. The differance is not so much " is it me or God", as "is it the flesh or the Spirit of God", or the enemy. Scripture is full of verses which say, in one form or another,"Let your peace be your guide". God is speaking to us all 24/7, we just haven't been taught to listen. If we feel He is telling us to do something, check your heart, do you feel @ peace about it or do you feel stressed or presured, then it's probably not the Lord. If you don't understand something either the Lord or someone else says, don't hassle, just "put it on the shelf" & ask the Lord to bring it to pass if it's Him or to take it away if it's not. Keep it simple! Many times other people wont know or agree that it's God when you share what He is saying, so be careful who /what you share. After all scripture does say"you have no need of any man to teach you anything, as the Holy Spirit will teach you ALL things". That doesn't mean you don't listen to others or ask advice, but it does mean that we are guided by the Holy Spirits voice/prompting above all else. When I started I told the Lord I wanted to learn how to hear from Him so I was going to follow the promptings etc, & would He please forgive me if I started going the wrong way or listening to the wrong voice. We will go the wrong way if we follow the lusts of the eyes, flesh etc. Can I share a true storey as an example? A prayer warrior in England woke one morning & was feeling prompted/ being told to go down to the local shopping centre & to stand on her head by the coke machine! She resisted the enemy etc., but it wouyldn't go away. After awile she rang other prayer warriors, & they all said that it wasn't God/ that He wouldn't do that!!! Later that morning because the prompting was still there, she rang her pastor, & he also said iwasn't the Lord, but she was still being told to go! In the end she decided to go as she thought, " what have I got to lose? I can only end up with egg on my face. So she went down to the shopping centre. A couple of blocks away a young man was fed up with life & put a loaded pitol into his mouth to blow his brains out. Then the Lord spoke to him & said, " If you do that you will never get to spend time with Me & you wont get to experience all I have for you" ( or words to that effect). With that the young man got up, put the loaded pistol into his pocket & went for a walk to the shopping centre. As he was approaching the centre he said to the Lord," Okay God if you are real, let there be someone standing on their head by the coke machine when I get there!! You guessed it, there was & the guy was gloriously saved & delivered & set free & filled with the Holy Spirit. I am not advocating making wierd challenges to the Lord, just that we can trust Him to have all things in control & under Him, & He knew how long it would take for the lady to respond to His direction. As many teachers will tell you, "The instruction from the Lord will sound totally alien to your natural mind." We are called to hear & obey, not rationalise, analise & if everyone else agrees, do it. Even as you go about your daily routine you can be communing with the Lord in your heart, while seeing & listening to what is going on around you. Have a really Blest life, Merv. I clicked the prev comment by accident & don't know how to remove it. Sorry
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RE: Which one, God, Satan or Me??? - 4/11/2008 5:55:30 PM
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metyo
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I have leared that, If I do what the bible tells me I don't have to guess, That is be still and let GOD-Experience, I had a person tell a lie that could have cost me my job and my reputation, I was going to take him down and the Holy Spirit muted me I left went back to office, there was something tearing me up on the inside, It had to be the devil because pride was trying to rise up make me do somthing stupid. that night when I went to read my Bible I just let it fall open. 11 Thess. don't know how many times I had read this but that nite I recieved revalation knowledge when I got to the 6th verse I just said God I recieve that in the name of Jesus, I had a piece. three weeks later that person lost thier jod and two people that helped him in his lie. We just turn it over to GOD HE Will handle all.
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RE: Which one, God, Satan or Me??? - 4/11/2008 6:11:11 PM
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cobblestone
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ORIGINAL: scottiezsister I am working very, very hard to improve my faith in God. In doing so, I need help with learning when God is speaking to me. I kind of understand when it's Satan, but I have a bigger problem discerning when it's my own desires and when is God actually talking to me. This has always been a question in my mind and I don't have it yet (this is very frustrating at times). Can people tell me how they know when God is talking to them??? Does it come in a thought, do you actually hear words??? How does it work? How do you know it's HIM as opposed to your own voice??? I think one of the easiest ways to say its from God is to hear it from your inner conscience and usually its not as a plan that has unfolded in your mind (which could be imagination working overtime) but as a new concept that comes as a revelation or a deep inner urging that can be resisted but pulls at you. Any stimuli from the outside is probably not from God altho He uses circumstances to explain your life to you.
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