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Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama?
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/7/2008 5:58:24 PM
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henny
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Hey on the bright side she is going to do all of McCains work by digging up all the icky stuff on BO for him. Then when she thinks she can just run again in 4 years she will be shocked to find out that everyone is still sick of her. 
I really have no idea how the race will shape up between Obama and McCain (I honestly think it will be really close again). But I do think it's possible that dredging up Obama's past this early would be better for him in the long run. If Obama had coasted to an easy victory in the democratic primary, you can bet there would be Republican groups who would have tried to make Wright in to an issue. And if it's going to happen anyway, better it happen sooner than as an "October surprise." That way by the time the election comes around it'll be more or less be old news.
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Ah, you naysayers, Hillary isn't dropping out.
I don't think she'll do it in the coming days. She seems to be intent on staying until the major primaries are done (or at least that's the message her campaign people seem to be sending). After June 3rd, if nothing changes, I think she'll drop out then (especially since the whole Fl delegate issue will be resolved by then, or that's what they hope anyway). If she doesn't at that point, she'll seriously damage her standing in the democratic party (something which, I think, she's smart enough to realize).
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/7/2008 6:18:50 PM
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Jhud
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I think Obama's gonna clean Mccain's clock.
I used to think that, in fact I was fairly certain of it, then I realized that no, these are Democrats we are dealing with here, and they are just as likely to clean their own clocks as someone else's.
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/7/2008 7:23:00 PM
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rcjames
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Clinton shold do just as Huckabee did; stay in the race until there is a definate winner.
Since on elected delagates neither Obama nor Clinton can win; it should be decided at the convention.
I mean Edward Kennedy did it in 1076, so whats good for the goose and all that.
It has been a long time since 1968 and I long for a repeat.
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/7/2008 7:56:39 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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Whatever does the most damage to the Democratic Party... Living in Northern California it is the only hope I have for anything remotely like a victory...
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/8/2008 12:05:55 AM
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wing2000
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Like the inspid theme song of Titanic, her campaign will go on and on, through West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota, on to battle with the Super Delegates, wrangling over MI and FL until the last delegate gasps out his choice.
Like Winston Churchill, she "shall fight on the beaches, she shall fight on the landing grounds, she shall fight in the fields and in the streets, she shall fight in the hills; she shall never surrender...".
Hillary, my friends, is an inspiration to us all.
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...no doubt she has the tenacity and desire to keep going...but I suspect those 6 million dollar loans to her campaign will get old after a while.
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/8/2008 5:17:00 AM
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tracydolls
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I used to think that, in fact I was fairly certain of it, then I realized that no, these are Democrats we are dealing with here, and they are just as likely to clean their own clocks as someone else's.
I was hoping the Rev. Wright put them both out of business, her for attacking him so hard, and him for just being dumb enough to sit there for 20 years and listen to the guy.
Why didnt huck do better?
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/8/2008 8:13:19 AM
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Hang in there Hitlery! Create chaos amongst the Dems!
Vote! Vote! Vote!
Revolution at the ballot box. Throw them all out and start from scratch.
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/8/2008 9:40:41 AM
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RedbirdVA
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Why didnt huck do better?
Because he wants to create a theocracy...and most people don't think politics & religion should mix.
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/8/2008 4:32:30 PM
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LOL, agreed.
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Whatever does the most damage to the Democratic Party... Living in Northern California it is the only hope I have for anything remotely like a victory...
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/8/2008 4:39:26 PM
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All you have to do is look past Bo's smooth talk, and look into his life, his friends, business associates and pastor, his church, even his wife. He is a smooth as silk, and people are so decieved, and they just are blinded to a con man. Hillary is just annoying, and who knows what went on during Bills administration. Everyone says McCain is Bush like, well Hillary, Bill, and BO, are all crooks, associate with crooks, and looking at thier lives with any insight will show you that. I do not care really if Hillary bows out, except I really want Americans see them attack each other, and the dirt dug up so the Jaun man can win, who is no big prize either, but the best of the three, I guess he has some honor from his war record, Jaun is not smooth or slick, and you cannot call him slick willy, or Slick Hillary, or Obama the snake-oil salesman.
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/13/2008 10:04:23 AM
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EStan
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Harry Reid on Hannity & Colmes last night:
Mr. Colmes: Is it possible at this point that Hillary Clinton can be the nominee?
Mr. Reid: I think that we can all see what’s going on and I think it’s going to be very difficult, but am I calling for her to quit? No. Barack Obama is not either. This is going to play itself out for a while longer and on June 2, we have about two thirds of the superdelegates have already announced. We’ll have however many leftover then? A couple days for Obama and Clinton after June 3 to make their statements to the unpledged superdelegates and we’ll have a five month general election campaign.Remember, Bill Clinton didn’t cinch the nomination until June 2. We’re going to do that shortly thereafter.
So what does everybody think? Is the democratic race for the nomination over after June 3?
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/14/2008 3:59:40 AM
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mapachito13
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Ah, you naysayers, Hillary isn't dropping out.
Like the inspid theme song of Titanic, her campaign will go on and on, through West Virginia, Kentucky, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Montana and South Dakota, on to battle with the Super Delegates, wrangling over MI and FL until the last delegate gasps out his choice.
Like Winston Churchill, she "shall fight on the beaches, she shall fight on the landing grounds, she shall fight in the fields and in the streets, she shall fight in the hills; she shall never surrender...".
Hillary, my friends, is an inspiration to us all.
I don't know if it's me but the pictures of her of late strike me as maniacal like she forcing her usually forced smile to the breaking point. It wouldn't surprise me if Bill will have to put her in a straight jacket after the convention. Hmmmm. Maybe even before.Sillary Hillary
The caption could say, "Hillary Clinton sounding much like Peter Lorre was overheard saying,'I'm going to win! I'm going to be President !@#$%^&!!! Nothing's going to stop me!!!'"
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/15/2008 4:04:56 PM
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rnershigh
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I think Obama's gonna clean Mccain's clock.
I used to think that, in fact I was fairly certain of it, then I realized that no, these are Democrats we are dealing with here, and they are just as likely to clean their own clocks as someone else's.
I agree.LOL.
But if Obama were to run against McCain, I don't think he'd "clean McCain's clock."  More like the other way around.
A week (or two? I can't remember) Katie Couric interviewed Obama and Clinton about the gas prices.
Obama's response was filled with "uhs", "ums" and pauses and he was so vague and not convincing in his response. I didn't feel like he knew what the heck he was saying.
Clinton, on the other hand, was more confident, had answers that clearly showed she at least put some thought behind her answer. She didn't pepper her answer with the "uhs" either.
Of the two, Clinton had better answers and although I don't really like her or support her, I was more impressed with her response than Obama's.
So I think, if Obama were the Democratic nominee and were to go up against McCain in a debate, everyone will see the big difference between the two and that he really isn't all that great anyways. Anyone can say change and let's make a difference, but what is he really saying? Nothing all that awe-inspiring.
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RE: Should Hillary drop out now and support Obama? - 5/15/2008 6:26:36 PM
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saved9201
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Clinton, on the other hand, was more confident, had answers that clearly showed she at least put some thought behind her answer. She didn't pepper her answer with the "uhs" either.
Of the two, Clinton had better answers and although I don't really like her or support her, I was more impressed with her response than Obama's.
So I think, if Obama were the Democratic nominee and were to go up against McCain in a debate, everyone will see the big difference between the two and that he really isn't all that great anyways. Anyone can say change and let's make a difference, but what is he really saying? Nothing all that awe-inspiring.
I've been saying basically the same thing in much earlier posts. In fact, I said from the start that I didn't think Obama was smart enough to be president. If people would just focus on him and what he says (or dosen't say), and not so much on his preacher, his "weird name" or his neighbors, then they'd see what really disqualifies him, like his naivete' regarding foreign policy and the economy. But as I also said earlier, we live in a Jerry Springer world, where people love the juicy stuff and substantive issues are just too complicated. Because some don't want to take the time to deal with complicated substantive issues that matter, they try to convince themselves (and others), that things like the "gotchas" (i.e., the "bitter" comment), Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and anything his wife says, are what's important. I've been saying all along, and I'm not the only one, I've talked to plenty of people, black people, who say that there's plenty substantive evidence out there that clearly affirms that Obama is not close to being ready to be leader of the free world. Hillary Clinton couldn't have spoken truer words that when she stated early in the campaign that she and John McCain bring experience to the job, and all Obama brings is a speech.
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