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ken1906_4 -> AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/1/2008 8:59:12 AM)

Since the whole Jeremiah Wright thing is still keeping a lot of people's attention, I wanted to do a little research on one of his comments about AIDS being a creation of the US government to eliminate people of color and other undesirables. Well...I remember a couple of years ago I listened to an interview with Boyd Graves, who did extensive research and investigation of the origins of AIDS and what he found pointed to....well....the US government. I checked out his website and many other relating websites and it was quite interesting. I'm not saying this is true, but the guy put a significant amount of effort to map out a time line of events and a flow chart of the origin of AIDS. I'm not sure if he still do interviews or not, but I'm quite sure people think he's a crazy because I have seen some of the interviews and he was treated as a nut case. Thought this would be a good topic for the Conspiracy Central forum. Maybe this is the source of Jeremiah Wright's comments about AIDS. [:D]

http://www.boydgraves.com/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1499970669444613056



WesP -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/1/2008 1:08:30 PM)

With the prevalence of AIDS in Africa, it is almost certain that it did not originate here. This is actually a relatively new theory when compared to the known existence of the virus.



cow451 -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/1/2008 1:27:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WesSavedByGrace

With the prevalence of AIDS in Africa, it is almost certain that it did not originate here. This is actually a relatively new theory when compared to the known existence of the virus.

There's also the "Green Monkey Theory".



ken1906_4 -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/2/2008 2:21:47 PM)

I remember the Green Monkey.
Then there was the belief that a single Haitian man started it all when he came to america in the 1969 and had gay sex with a few people and it spreaded throughout the world.



cherokeehippie -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/9/2008 12:40:39 PM)

I haven't had a chance to check hte links you supplied...but to be honest...I wouldn't be surprised that our gov. created the virus. If you study eugenics, etc...you'll see that the elite wants to do away with anyone nonwhite, and 'inferior' to them...just look at how smallpox infected blankets were knowingly given to Native Americans, also the sterilization of native women, and other peoples..in hte early part of the 20th century...over 40,000 people here in teh states were sterilzation without their permission...so they wouldn't have children and produce 'more of their kind"....then there were African Americans who were given the syphilis viris , etc...

Here's a little on hte eugenics movement, funded by the elite, big corporations, etc...even the Harriman family...cronies of hte Bushes.

http://hnn.us/articles/1796.html



lightshineon -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/13/2008 10:50:17 PM)

Oh, good heavens, how did many whites get Aids? Why did President Bush send much federal aide to Africa, helping the people with Aids. Even if a person hates him, and all but 27% of us do, he has saved many, many lives of the African people. I know there are biggots in this country, but it is not South Africa, this is the United States of America; in which I still believe there is a basic goodness even in the goverment.



WesP -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/16/2008 2:01:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

Oh, good heavens, how did many whites get Aids? Why did President Bush send much federal aide to Africa, helping the people with Aids. Even if a person hates him, and all but 27% of us do, he has saved many, many lives of the African people. I know there are biggots in this country, but it is not South Africa, this is the United States of America; in which I still believe there is a basic goodness even in the goverment.


You're in the Conspiracy folder! No need for rationalization here. [;)]



Birdiecat -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/17/2008 8:07:04 AM)

Bear with me, I'll probably drop out words. In 1983, I read an article in Rolling Stone magazine. Rolling Stone is the only publication that would touch this research. The writer spent a long time researching his article. Seems a Polish doctor had created an oral polio vaccine. This vaccine was administered to people in Africa in the 1950s-1960s. There was some type of civil unrest in the area the vaccine was first given. Haitians had some to help rebuild the area. We have 2 races of people, African and Hatians. This doctor's vaccine was made out of monkey kidneys and since the polio vaccine is a live virus ... well, guess what we got? Human Immunodefiency Virus. The type of AIDS found in monkeys and lived in the live polio vaccine! This type of simian AIDS mutated into what we know as HIV/AIDS! I heard this story once on CNN in the 1990's. A court order had been issued to test some frozen samples of this Polish doctor's vaccine! Never heard another word about it!! I believe this man's article to be truth.



lightshineon -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/21/2008 9:53:41 PM)

Birdie, I honestly will look into it, but even if so, it was not intentional.



tracydolls -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/22/2008 6:42:16 AM)

a case that makes you go hmmmm...????

http://www.theledger.com/article/20070724/ZNYT03/707240434

I don't believe the US created AIDS. Remember when we first heard of it, who was prez? What did he do? or say about AIDS?



Jeff_from_Kentucky -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/22/2008 6:57:23 AM)

There is also the theory that the Soviet Union created the AIDS virus and tested it in Africa, where they had far more influence than did the US. The reasoning behind that theory was that the Soviets knew that American and Western promiscuity would cause the virus to spread rapidly, thereby winning the cold war for the Soviet Bloc through the attrition of people.



lightshineon -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/22/2008 10:13:40 AM)

You know Aids was created by the devil, it destroys the young, old, gay, straight,, drug addicts, and those who will not even take asprin, and knows no color. It started with sin, and living in a fallen world, where bad things happen people die. The deal is the first people it hit first were gay, white men. Black people were not the first victims. Wright is crazy, many Africans, Japanese, Korean, whites, people from every tribe and nation were killed in the WTC, so how does he say this is God's judgement on America. Last I heard he was an American, himself, why was he not in the building. I do not trust anything him, he is not well in his spirit or mind. That is not racial, I love and respected EV Hill more than any other pastor, I have ever seen. I am sorry, he is dead he was a good man with so much sense, as is Tony Evans.



WesP -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/22/2008 10:22:26 AM)

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You know Aids was created by the devil,


Not to antagonize, but I do not believe the devil can create. Only God can do that. [:)]



lightshineon -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/22/2008 10:26:35 AM)

Well sin creates death, so yes God had to allow it. Nothing happens without God's permisson.
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ORIGINAL: WesP

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You know Aids was created by the devil,


Not to antagonize, but I do not believe the devil can create. Only God can do that. [:)]



cow451 -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/23/2008 10:19:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Birdiecat

Bear with me, I'll probably drop out words. In 1983, I read an article in Rolling Stone magazine. Rolling Stone is the only publication that would touch this research. The writer spent a long time researching his article. Seems a Polish doctor had created an oral polio vaccine. This vaccine was administered to people in Africa in the 1950s-1960s. There was some type of civil unrest in the area the vaccine was first given. Haitians had some to help rebuild the area. We have 2 races of people, African and Hatians. This doctor's vaccine was made out of monkey kidneys and since the polio vaccine is a live virus ... well, guess what we got? Human Immunodefiency Virus. The type of AIDS found in monkeys and lived in the live polio vaccine! This type of simian AIDS mutated into what we know as HIV/AIDS! I heard this story once on CNN in the 1990's. A court order had been issued to test some frozen samples of this Polish doctor's vaccine! Never heard another word about it!! I believe this man's article to be truth.


I always look to 26-year-old Rolling Stone articles for my scientific data. But the gold standard would be an article in Playboy.[sm=catinhatsmile.gif]



lightshineon -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/23/2008 9:57:29 PM)

Slap your own hand cow. Shame[:'(]
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ORIGINAL: cow451

quote:

ORIGINAL: Birdiecat

Bear with me, I'll probably drop out words. In 1983, I read an article in Rolling Stone magazine. Rolling Stone is the only publication that would touch this research. The writer spent a long time researching his article. Seems a Polish doctor had created an oral polio vaccine. This vaccine was administered to people in Africa in the 1950s-1960s. There was some type of civil unrest in the area the vaccine was first given. Haitians had some to help rebuild the area. We have 2 races of people, African and Hatians. This doctor's vaccine was made out of monkey kidneys and since the polio vaccine is a live virus ... well, guess what we got? Human Immunodefiency Virus. The type of AIDS found in monkeys and lived in the live polio vaccine! This type of simian AIDS mutated into what we know as HIV/AIDS! I heard this story once on CNN in the 1990's. A court order had been issued to test some frozen samples of this Polish doctor's vaccine! Never heard another word about it!! I believe this man's article to be truth.


I always look to 26-year-old Rolling Stone articles for my scientific data. But the gold standard would be an article in Playboy.[sm=catinhatsmile.gif]



BlackCapnHarlock -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/25/2008 10:17:59 PM)

Not a shocker if AIDS was created to kill blacks in Africa and in the third world and now the United States.

However, to me it's ludicrous because it kills whites in affluent areas as well.

So AIDS was made to kill blacks and homosexuals and drug addicts? That's a huge risk for a disease.



3cappuccinosmom -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/26/2008 9:17:54 AM)

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"....then there were African Americans who were given the syphilis viris , etc...


That is not true. I wish people would stop spouting that. [8|] The Tuskeegee project was a moral and ethical mess. But people were not *given* the virus. They *already had* the virus and were told they were getting treatment when they really weren't, or were told they just had "Bad blood" and were never given the real diagnosis. Several of the administrators of the project were black. The whistle-blower on the project was white.
It is far more complex than a whites-hate-blacks-and-want-to-kill-them thing.

I do agree with you about the eugenics. I find it ironic that the patron saint of abortion and Planned Parenthood, much beloved by the left, Margaret Sanger was such a great example of that.



3cappuccinosmom -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/26/2008 9:21:10 AM)

Tuskeegee Project



cow451 -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/27/2008 10:01:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: 3cappuccinosmom

quote:

"....then there were African Americans who were given the syphilis viris , etc...


That is not true. I wish people would stop spouting that. [8|] The Tuskeegee project was a moral and ethical mess. But people were not *given* the virus. They *already had* the virus and were told they were getting treatment when they really weren't, or were told they just had "Bad blood" and were never given the real diagnosis. Several of the administrators of the project were black. The whistle-blower on the project was white.
It is far more complex than a whites-hate-blacks-and-want-to-kill-them thing.



Thanks. I feel so much better, now. [8|] It would really help if you could clarify that lynching stuff as well.



3cappuccinosmom -> RE: AIDS, a US government creation??? (5/29/2008 3:59:23 PM)

I didn't say it was a good thing. [8|]

But it is wrong to lie and exaggerate to make a point, and that is what people do when they say the men were deliberately infected with the disease and that it was a whites-hate-blacks conspiracy.

Lynching was also a horrible evil. But I will disagree with anyone who says that all whites agree with lynching, or distorts the facts of history in order to support hatred of white people.



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