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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/6/2008 8:20:10 AM   
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((((((((MBee)))))))

I think you need to contact someone at the school, even if you know people won't be happy about it. That little girl needs help and she is crying out by telling you that. Is there a counselor at that school? That's who I would talk to.

Mother's Day...my mom's church has a Mother-Daughter-Sister-Friend brunch. I like how they word it actually, because it is easy for people who have never borne or adopted a child to feel like they don't belong.

Noah has pajama day today. He didn't want to wear his real pajamas, which are either long johns or nothin' but undies. I told him he could wear sweats and a t-shirt, so he was okay with that. Tomorrow is "era day"...no idea how to help him with that one.


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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/6/2008 8:27:38 AM   
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Other thoughts on Mother's Day...it's been a day that I have long disliked. My husband doesn't help the kids do anything, nor does he think of his own mother without my help. Noah is a gift-giver though and keeps asking me when Mother's Day is...I told him he needs to (respectfully!) tell his Daddy to take him to the store or whatever he needs help with. I told Brian that Noah is worried about it and he said he'll take care of it. With his history in this area, I'm not holding my breath.

Then I feel guilty because it shouldn't matter that nothing is done for me on Mother's Day. It would just be nice to be appreciated...and we all know that Moms don't often feel that way.

To top it off, we didn't have Nick last weekend and this weekend will only have him Friday evening to Saturday evening, because he is always with his mom on M-day. Now, if I am honest with myself, I know he belongs there on M-day, and I would feel the same way if my kids had to go to Daddy's house too...I would demand they be here with me on M-day. It just hurts because in my heart he is my baby too and he's never here on M-day. All the M-day little things from school go to his birth mom. I can only pray that someday he will recognize that I have been his mom all along too.

And...I have nursery Sunday. Yippee. You'd think they could have had a man do it on Mother's Day, so a mother didn't have to.

I think I have a bad attitude about M-day.


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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/6/2008 8:29:47 AM   
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Mbee, prayers are being prayed.

Yay, Nathan!

So nice for Noah to surprise you with a solo, Donna.

Bug collection? I don't remember doing one of those. We did collect leaves, though. Everyone had to collect as many different varieties as they could find. We're lucky to live near some woodlands, so we found a lot.

School threats? We've had a few in our state in recent months. Last month one young man was arrested because his mother turned him in as a result of his myspace or facebook page - don't remember which one. We had a bomb threat at our high school two years ago. It was early in the morning as kids were arriving. It held the start of school for about an hour. Those who were already at school were sent across the street to a park, and the roads were blocked off for a block either way. After a search, the police let everyone enter the school. I never did hear if they caught anyone. The middle school had two children sent to jail for juveniles for a month after bringing guns to school back in November. It's so sad and scary to see these things happening.

S made colorguard, but three of her friends didn't. She's so happy, yet so sad for them. One of her friends made alternate, which means she will practice with color guard until the end of school to see if she can make it before the band/guard is completely set. The director said the alternates had potential, but they were a little rough around the edges, so he's giving them a chance to catch up.

Hope everyone has a good day!
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/6/2008 8:37:38 AM   
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MBee...I wish I could offer an easy suggestion. It's a shame that you are not friends with her mother.

Donna: Mother's day...ugh... Youngest ds is the "celebration/gift" person so my family will remember if he does. When my older two were children I would buy cards so that they had something to give me on Mother's day. They would always hear about it in Sunday School and if they didn't have something to give they would have been sad.

I'll be working nursery, too! I am a 2nd Sunday worker, so I always work on Mother's day. I can beat the nursery duty though....I have to go in to work as soon as church is over.

I do need to remember to buy cards and gifts for my mom and mil.

It is also my anniversary this week...and we are not going on vacation like we have for the past two years. It will be interesting to see if my dh actually remembers.

< Message edited by JuliaHop -- 5/6/2008 8:47:46 AM >


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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/6/2008 8:44:11 AM   
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Oh, that is icky, Julia.

I did get my Mommy a gift certificate to a local nursery, to help fund her beautiful flower beds. And since Survivor finale is on M-day night, I am thinking my sister, mom, and I should go out for ice cream and then back to my mom's to watch it together. Maybe if I think of that as my M-day gift to myself too...LOL. Brian can take the three kids over to his mom's while I do that.

I know M-day is difficult for a lot of people. My sister has now been trying to have a baby for almost two years now and still no go. I know it's hard for her, along with others with infertility struggles...there will be a few faces missing from church Sunday, I'm sure, because it's just too hard. And then there are military wives whose husbands are gone for months at a time...yeah, I do have it really good and I need to remember that.


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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/6/2008 8:49:59 AM   
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The director of my ds's piano program called...he will be receiving a special award tomorrow during Award's Day. She indicated that it was a surprise but wanted to be sure that I was there. I am so glad that I changed my hours for tomorrow.

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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/6/2008 8:52:37 AM   
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Cool!

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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/6/2008 11:39:56 AM   
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I called the school - I'm still not convinced it is the best course of action...
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/6/2008 11:51:36 AM   
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Liz has finally caught up all of her assignments except one that her biology teacher is working on with her.

I have decided not to homeschool her next year for a variety of reasons.

1- I had a problem getting her to do all of her work, even at her own pace. I just don't feel up to taking on that battle again and I feel that by not turning in assignments and lying to me about it, I know that we will have more of the same battle.

2- She is starting to make friends with some really good kids. Those friendships have not been formed for that long, and I don't think they'll be as likely to last if she isn't seeing them at school.

3- She has talked about some things that will happen next year at school that she is looking forward too. I don't think that she realizes that she will have a hard time doing those things if she is homeschooled.

We are going to a meeting tonight that is about getting a group of kids who would benefit from smaller class sizes and how to best help them. I will be telling her after the meeting.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/6/2008 1:58:33 PM   
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I'm glad you called the school MBee.

I don't like Mother's Day either, for reasons similar to Donna's. And also because of people like Donna's sister, who struggle through the day. I feel bad for them sitting in church (or not coming at all, which I probably wouldn't either) while they are talking about the joys of motherhood, or whatever.

My 13 and 17yo's will probably make me cards, so that is nice. Well, actually the 17yo has no time to make me a card as I think about it, so I'll understand if she doesn't.

That's great about the award tomorrow, Julia!

I understand those reasons for not homeschooling next year Roberta. I hope Liz isn't too upset. Since she's starting to make friends that should help.

Dee
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/7/2008 7:22:45 PM   
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WARNING!!!!! CUB/BOY SCOUT RANT IN PROGRESS!!! Continue at your own risk!


I'm done with the boy and cub scout packs around here! Done! Finished! That's it! I'm just so tired of the lack of communication. Normally, unless we are otherwise notified in advance - there are no pack or den meetings on the first Monday of the month - Well apparently they had the final meeting this past Monday with the end of the year cermonies and everything - No one called me - told me ANYTHING about it - NOTHING! And this isn't the first time communication has been lacking! Sure tell the boys to tell their parents but then ALSO send a note home to parents! I'm also really tired of Ethan being treated like he is the only child that misbehaves and then not be given an apology when he's blamed for something he clearly isn't doing! And Ty is just not having fun anymore either. I HATE being told by the school janitor that a meeting happened 2 day after the fact! That's simply wrong and bad communication!

Okay my rant is over.

Back to your regularly scheduled chat thread!

Spent the afternoon at school again. I love it there! I really should have gotten my degree in education! Alas - what was I thinking 19 years ago?

Looks pretty for sure that hubby will be laid off next week. So he's going to be looking for work again. The good thing is is that the company STILL has to pay for his classes that have already been approved so his summer class this summer and his two courses in the fall will be completely paid for! AND they have to pay for his earned vacation time too. Someone told me today that he should look into working for the railroad - except I don't think he'd like being away from home so much.

Anyway - I suppose I should go out and clean up my kitchen before the evening gets away from me!

I really do appreciate all of you! Somedays when I get to ranting like this it feels really good to have friends that I KNOW will listen and care and NOT make me or my boys feel like they are quitters!

Blessings,

Garsy
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/7/2008 7:39:20 PM   
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Garsy, we don't do cub scouts, but if our AWANA group did that kind of thing, we wouldn't stay long. That kind of stuff drives me bonkers.

Noah had his dentist appointment today and did great. I begged, pleaded, and demanded that they use nitrous on him. When he was done, the nurse came out and told me he had laughed the whole time and talked to Sponge Bob (he was in the SB procedure room). This after two weeks ago when they had to fight him to get one filling done and then he cried for hours afterward because I think he bruised his mouth badly when he fought them. Give the kid his happy medicine before you come near his mouth with a needle! Today, they did two cavities and sealed several molars. He was done within 30 minutes and no pain or crying. We don't have to go back until October.

We're going to have to alter our daily walk route. The past few days, we've walked the way we normally do and one of Noah's AWANA leaders has been outside working on her yard. She has all kinds of comments to make about us having another baby. I can't take it. I know she isn't right and has no right to say those things to me, but she makes me want to crawl under a rock and cry. And then I wonder how many other people are thinking awful, rude things about us and just not saying them. Being a Christian talking to another Christian does not give you the right to say whatever stupid thing comes into your head.


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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/7/2008 11:49:24 PM   
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How frustrating Garsy. Our den leader is very good about emailing everyone. I'm not sure what happens to those who don't have email though.

Speaking of scouts, they told the boys about Jamboree last night. I don't know if N will be going, and I don't want to hear about how N can earn the money for it every day between now and 2010. Oh well, I'm sure that the excitement will wear off.

Donna, I'm so sorry you have to deal with that. That's inexcusable from another Christian.

I'm glad Noah had a good appointment.

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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/7/2008 11:53:09 PM   
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ARG!!! anyone want a 12 year old! I'm gonna give mine away! I think I posted about her grade problems. Well I have been on her about getting the English stuff printed. It's on a thing called an AlphaSmart. It looks like a small computer but without a screen. She has handwriting problems, really bad and years of therapy haven't helped. So she is suppose to go to her English teacher's room get the AS and take it to the computer lab. Transfer the files to the regular computer and print them. It is time consuming and frustrating but it's what we have for now. I have been on her since monday to do this. It is now Wednesday and she still hasn't done it. She is failing English because she hasn't turned in her work. I told her no youth group or outside activities until this is done. ARG!!!

O.K. rant is over now.

Garsy, I'm sorry about the scouts and the way they are treating your kids. I'm really sorry about your husband's job. I'll be praying that he finds the perfect job quickly.

Donna, I'm glad Noah's dentest went so well. I'm sorry that his AWANA leader is being so insensitive. If anything Christians should be much more kind to one another than non-Christians. It's none of her business anyway. I would take her aside, away from Noah and speak to her. If that doesn't work then you should bring one of the older ladies of the church with you to speak to her. Rudness is never O.K. It just makes me so mad! ((((hugs)))) to you my sister.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 2:04:07 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: momma_bee

I called the school - I'm still not convinced it is the best course of action...



Let us know if you hear anything about it. I'm glad you called.


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ORIGINAL: JuliaHop

The director of my ds's piano program called...he will be receiving a special award tomorrow during Award's Day. She indicated that it was a surprise but wanted to be sure that I was there. I am so glad that I changed my hours for tomorrow.


how wonderful! :D


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I have decided not to homeschool her next year for a variety of reasons.

We are going to a meeting tonight that is about getting a group of kids who would benefit from smaller class sizes and how to best help them. I will be telling her after the meeting.


How did it go Roberta?


{{{Garsy}}}

I'm not to fond of mothers day. I don't make a big deal about it, my mom makes too big of a deal I think.

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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 7:47:45 AM   
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Kath - you mean like you don't count as a mother as long as you have a mother to honor?

My Mom has called with suggestions for what her grandkids can get her. Perhaps that is part of my objection to it being a 'daughter's day' event. I have never been recognized outside the home for Mother's Day. When we go to a dinner with Mom, we are expected and reminded to honor our mother. I have been given the opportunity to talk about what is good about my mom, what my mom taught me and then had DeeDee passed over as 'too young' to talk to a group.

Not entirely true. At St. Paul's they did a Mother's Day dinner, served by men, open to all the women and they recognized different groups. Some catagories were for Mom's, some for Daughter's and some for Ladies. (you know, Mother of the youngest child, Adult Lady who traveled the furthest, Grandmother with the most grandkids / grandkids present, anyone with their mother's picture in their purse) So, everyone who was there was included and honored while still saying mother.

Donna, I feel for you sister. We don't know why there are only two bees in our hive. It isn't like we haven't been doing the bee dance all these years, and we haven't changed our habits ( ) since we got married. It just didn't happen a third time. (YET) I know how awful I feel at times. It is terrible to be sad for yourself when society dictates you should be happy and can't imagine how much worse I would feel if I didn't have the little ones I have been blessed with. I skipped an infant baptism once. I used the then two-year-old's 'crankiness' as an excuse to leave the sanctuary because it was unfair that they had another baby and I didn't. And, I'm not comparing my situation to those without or have lost children - I just know that I feel so terrible at times I don't want to hurt any worse and know that others do. I couldn't bear it.

I guess that gives me the opposite reaction of your neighbors? I could call out and ask for advice every time you walk past...

I have a boy scout rant of my own. I am your son's leader, and I'm sorry, but I am so burnt out that everything just sneaks up on me because I stopped caring about 4 months ago... You are right to be upset and it doesn't just fall on the DL, but the CM and the awards person. They handled it poorly. And, I'm not defending them when I identify with them. That rots that you all missed the awards pack meeting and if the program was run correctly, it would be important for every boy to be there, so that no one is missed because they are NEEDED. In other words. There should have been skits / songs / demonstrations that would require your son's HELP - and there would be recognition as well. Instead of "sit here and be quiet until we call you name, isn't Cubbies fun? Oh, Johnny didn't make it, we will mail it too him."

I agreed to take the boys to camp again this year. This is year 7. That makes 35 nights at camp. Of those I have had non-relatives for 10 nights. Relatives for 3 more. You do the math. That means I have had camp people or other troops provide more support than the units themselves. I have paid to be there, I have lost income (days without pay) and used vacation. My vacation request was turned down. So, I can have the boys 'adopted' by another troop or change the week or, and this is a novel idea, SOMEONE ELSE could go. And I need to know by Friday. I was told I'd be contacted today by the only other camper to see if he is available for the other week. You know, that may not have room for us - I didn't call because I don't know if I need to find space.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 8:11:17 AM   
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I guess that gives me the opposite reaction of your neighbors? I could call out and ask for advice every time you walk past...


LOL...whatever floats your boat... ((((((((((((((((((MB)))))))))))))))))) It may not appear that way from the number of our children, but I have also been in the 'wanting a baby so bad it hurts' camp. Between Noah and Hannah are 5 years, and we intended 2. I skipped many baby showers, baby dedications, and cried every time someone announced a pregnancy. So yeah...I know that part too. It's horribly hard when you want such a blessing so badly and God's answer continues to be 'no' or 'not yet'.

As for the AWANA leader...AWANA is not even at our church, so I wouldn't feel comfortable going to their leadership with the problem. I think this woman attributes the attitude problems Noah has had (better at AWANA now, but last year he was awful there) to our having more kids. Well, yeah, maybe the kid would have been happier as an only child, but...he's not. And you're right, it's not her business. If she actually knew anything about our family, she'd know that Noah is always very excited about new babies and is a huge help to me when they are born. In fact, I am pretty sure he will shed a few tears when he learns we are probably done having babies. Anyway, I'm not sure what this lady's problem is, but we're just not going to walk that way anymore because I am so done hearing how we should really not be having another kid.


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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 8:48:02 AM   
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Without knowing exactly what she is saying, I have to imagine and my own imagined response would have to be "You are right, I never realized...what do you want me to do about it NOW??" Just to put her on the spot.

I mean really.

Poppa has a cousin that is expecting. No ring, unless you count the nuts he has in his ears and the studs in his nose and eyebrows. Part time work, because he has to be free to take off and perform with his band. I know God has a plan, but sometimes I really wish He'd let me in on a secret or two - it would make it go a lot easier.

The thing about secondary infertility is that you know everything is in working order. You did it once, why not again? Poppa and I decided to trust the Lord's judgment in the matter. Right isn't always easy.

I'll never hear from the school about my call. I asked why she didn't call back the last time and she said that she did, and left a message, at work. Bull. If she had the wrong extension and left multiple messages, someone would have called me - just to rag on my about it.

I have to contact them again. DeeDee said she wasn't pointing at a word in her book (she said she lost her place) and the teacher called her a Princess. Umm. Name-calling by the teacher? And, of course the kids picked up on it.
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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 9:14:51 AM   
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Garsy...I'm so sorry about the Boy Scout rudeness and about your dh being laid off. It is great that they are going to pay for his classes!!

MBee...I'm sorry that your dd's teacher called her a name. When I was in 6th grade a teacher called me the name that students used to tease me and I remember it quite clearly 37 years later.

I hope that you find someone to take responsibility for the camping trip.

Donna...sorry you have a rude neighbor.

It's the last day of school today and I actually remembered to get all of my teacher gifts. Now I need to get mother's day gifts for our moms. I work at the mall and with all the shopping I've needed to do lately, they are going to think that I live there.

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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 9:29:42 AM   
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Rotten for the teacher to call DeeDee a name, but you can remind her that she IS a princess. She is your princess and she is God's princess.

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It's the last day of school today


Already??!!


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RE: ...Brings May Flowers! May PPS Chat - 5/8/2008 9:37:01 AM   
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Garsy, I completely understand your rant. Our band director thinks that middle and high school students tell their parents everything and nothing has to be written down or emailed to parents. Excuse me, they are still kids, and some don't tell their parents anything. How many parents have to tell you this before you understand it? Parents would be glad to tell other parents if you would tell one of us, but someone is still going to be missed or miss out simply because we don't all know each other. Ugghh!

It's great that your husband's classes will still be paid for. I hope he is able to find something soon, or that things will somehow work out.

((Donna)) How rude! I hope your other route is more pleasant.

Mbee, hope you get things squared away.

Mother's Day for us is visiting my mother on Saturday and his mother on Sunday. We give them cards from us and from the kids and share a meal together. That's about it. My hubby and the kids have cards for me on Sunday morning before we head to church. Hey, if we don't show our appreciation throughout the year .... okay, just put me on that rant pile.

Final band and chorus concert tonight. I will be interested in how they all sound. This year the high school and middle school are doing it together, as so many activities are going on for the end of the year. I thought it was a nice touch.
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