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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 5/16/2008 9:54:45 AM
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Hybrid plants scare me, too. I wish they would label foods that had been genetically tampered with.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 5/16/2008 10:04:28 AM
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What is good fish to purchase? I have not really bought fish since I moved to Colorado, and before that I would just go to the dock and pick some up when the boats came in for the day, so obviously freshness wasn't an issue.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 5/16/2008 10:16:47 AM
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Hybrid plants scare me, too. I wish they would label foods that had been genetically tampered with.
GMO was discussed in the interview I linked to.
If one's health suffered, from cutting out meat, then they weren't doing it right. There simply, scientifically, nutritionally, is no reason that (I've found in over ten years of nutrition investigation) being vegetarian isn't 100% healthy, when done properly.
Meat consumption is simply a choice, not a dietary necessity (in reason.). Just like...well, any choice we all make, what to wear, what to eat, whether or not to drink, it's just a personal choice.
I really enjoy the clearer skin I have, when I'm not ingesting all the hormones and chemicals pumped into chicken and cows in this country. I wasn't happy about it, when I determined it was a definate factor, but I have to keep reminding myself of all the physical benefits, vs. the tastiness. Mmm...tasty steak... - which I still eat on occasion, mind you, but I make sure it's drug-free. Just say no! 
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According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, by 1999, roughly 99 percent of cows on large feedlots in the U.S. were given synthetic hormonal implants. These hormones, some of which are used illegally by athletes, are prohibited for over-the-counter use by humans in the United States, but the FDA refuses to adequately regulate their use to promote growth in cows, meaning that when you eat meat and drink milk, you are consuming unsafe drugs that weren’t prescribed to you.
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American Beef: Why is it Banned in Europe?
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These sex hormones, particularly estradiol, are linked ever more closelyto the escalating incidence of reproductive cancers since 1973 -- 54%for post-menopausal breast cancer, 67% for testicular cancer, and 105%for prostate cancer. Of particular concern also is the increasingincidence of premature puberty in young girls, which has been linked tohormonal meat.
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Hormone residues in beef have been implicated in the early onset of puberty in girls, which could put them at greater risk of developing breast and other forms of cancer....Milk from rBGH-treated cows contains higher levels of IGF-1 (Insulin Growth Factor-1), which has been linked to colon and breast cancer. Even though no direct connection has been made between elevated IGF-1 levels in milk and cancer in humans, scientists have expressed concern.xv
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There isn't one good fish to purchase. It depends on how you're going to use it. Your budget. Where you live, what's available, etc. Generally, if I feel like fish, I just see what looks good and is affordable.
For the record, I'm in the PCOS club, too.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 5/16/2008 10:54:01 AM
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Hybrid plants scare me, too. I wish they would label foods that had been genetically tampered with.
GMO was discussed in the interview I linked to.
If one's health suffered, from cutting out meat, then they weren't doing it right. There simply, scientifically, nutritionally, is no reason that (I've found in over ten years of nutrition investigation) being vegetarian isn't 100% healthy, when done properly.
Meat consumption is simply a choice, not a dietary necessity (in reason.). Just like...well, any choice we all make, what to wear, what to eat, whether or not to drink, it's just a personal choice.
I really enjoy the clearer skin I have, when I'm not ingesting all the hormones and chemicals pumped into chicken and cows in this country. I wasn't happy about it, when I determined it was a definate factor, but I have to keep reminding myself of all the physical benefits, vs. the tastiness. Mmm...tasty steak... - which I still eat on occasion, mind you, but I make sure it's drug-free. Just say no!
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According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, by 1999, roughly 99 percent of cows on large feedlots in the U.S. were given synthetic hormonal implants. These hormones, some of which are used illegally by athletes, are prohibited for over-the-counter use by humans in the United States, but the FDA refuses to adequately regulate their use to promote growth in cows, meaning that when you eat meat and drink milk, you are consuming unsafe drugs that weren’t prescribed to you.
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American Beef: Why is it Banned in Europe?
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These sex hormones, particularly estradiol, are linked ever more closelyto the escalating incidence of reproductive cancers since 1973 -- 54%for post-menopausal breast cancer, 67% for testicular cancer, and 105%for prostate cancer. Of particular concern also is the increasingincidence of premature puberty in young girls, which has been linked tohormonal meat.
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Hormone residues in beef have been implicated in the early onset of puberty in girls, which could put them at greater risk of developing breast and other forms of cancer....Milk from rBGH-treated cows contains higher levels of IGF-1 (Insulin Growth Factor-1), which has been linked to colon and breast cancer. Even though no direct connection has been made between elevated IGF-1 levels in milk and cancer in humans, scientists have expressed concern.xv
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There isn't one good fish to purchase. It depends on how you're going to use it. Your budget. Where you live, what's available, etc. Generally, if I feel like fish, I just see what looks good and is affordable.
For the record, I'm in the PCOS club, too.
I know how to do vegetarian. I also can't tolerate soy so that wipes out a lot of options for protein sources. I have other food allergies too. I feel best on a balanced diet with meat. I don't feel guilty about my choices We each have to do what is right for us.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 5/16/2008 11:09:36 AM
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I also can't tolerate soy so that wipes out a lot of options for protein sources.
I can't tolerate soy either, and I am not convinced it's any better for PCOS then the hormones found in your average beef/poultry. We don't really eat Pork so that isn't even a factor.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 5/16/2008 11:28:35 AM
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The key is to figure out what makes each of us feel and function at our best. There is no one size fits all way of eating. The key is choosing the best foods we can that are as close to how they were created by God.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 5/16/2008 11:36:13 AM
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The key is to figure out what makes each of us feel and function at our best. There is no one size fits all way of eating. The key is choosing the best foods we can that are as close to how they were created by God.
This is exactly right. My current diet makes me feel good, and it gets me pregnant(not currently, but it worked when we ttc DD). I don't really care to mess with what I already know works for my body. By eating the way I do I've been able to eliminate the need for Metformin and I'm back to just taking Cinnamon supplements.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 5/16/2008 11:50:11 AM
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This is exactly right. My current diet makes me feel good, and it gets me pregnant(not currently, but it worked when we ttc DD). I don't really care to mess with what I already know works for my body. By eating the way I do I've been able to eliminate the need for Metformin and I'm back to just taking Cinnamon supplements.
Looking at that precious baby is all that you need to know that dietary changes are worth the effort. I firmly believe that diet and nutrition should be the first option for people when they are diagnosed with an illness. It does take some work and effort to find out what works but the payoff is worth it.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 5/17/2008 10:02:50 PM
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What is good fish to purchase? I have not really bought fish since I moved to Colorado, and before that I would just go to the dock and pick some up when the boats came in for the day, so obviously freshness wasn't an issue.
What kind of fish did you get then? I am not a big fish person, but I will eat some fish if it doesn't have that too "fishy" taste to it.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 5/19/2008 9:27:51 AM
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Fresh fish doesn't taste fishy.
Here's one tip: don't buy fish from Wal-Mart.
Look in your phone book, do you have any seafood stores in town? If you have a Fresh Market, they always have an excellent selection.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/1/2008 2:17:39 PM
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What is good fish to purchase? I have not really bought fish since I moved to Colorado, and before that I would just go to the dock and pick some up when the boats came in for the day, so obviously freshness wasn't an issue.
What kind of fish did you get then? I am not a big fish person, but I will eat some fish if it doesn't have that too "fishy" taste to it.
My favorite and a staple of the Chesapeake Bay is Rockfish, also known as Striped Bass if I recall correctly. It never tasted fishy since it was fresh.
Now I buy the occasional Tilapia or Salmon but for the most part we haven't eaten fish.
I found THIS to be highly interesting.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/1/2008 3:27:02 PM
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Q: If I bake a muffin mix from the commerce of a good quality like "Quaker" which states: [wheat flour] as its 1st ingredients and add to the dough "Natural Wheat Bran" will this make my muffins/cake mix healthy choice or like eating whole grain food by adding this wheat bran?
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/1/2008 5:04:11 PM
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It would add some fiber to the mix so that would help.
I bought Nourishing Traditions last weekend and it's really eye opening. It's got some really good information and recipes of traditional foods.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/1/2008 5:19:48 PM
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Thanks steph that's what I thought. Adding fiber is really healthy. Most people use all purpose flour.
The problem with whole wheat flour is it is dry, so whenever I bake from scratch, you have to be careful to add lost of moisture and fat, otherwise you will end up with coarse and dry cake or muffins.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/2/2008 11:57:09 AM
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I have that cookbook, Steph, and love it!! Things to try:
Cream of Vegie Soup (p212)
Vegetable Chile (p434)
Only thing to stay away from is the Pesto Soup (p211.) It's expensive to make and tastes like veggie soup. It's good...I'd just make cheap veggie soup instead. (1 bag frozen Mixed veggies, thyme sprig, 1 clove garlic, salt, white pepper, 4 cups beef broth, and 1 can low-sodium tomatoes- any style, really, although I like crushed so dh won't pick out the tomatoes.)
I think I may use this cookbook to plan menus today.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/2/2008 1:29:28 PM
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when I'm not ingesting all the hormones and chemicals pumped into chicken and cows in this country
Just to clarify -- hormones/antibiotics aren't pumped into chicken. It's federally prohibited. Beef, yes. Turkey, yes. Chicken, no. 
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So, what are you ladies doing in regards to eating whole foods? I know as I get more in shape we will make even more of a switch to whole foods/clean eating. Right now our main meals are whole foods(with the exception of my Pizza weakness) but our snacks are not.
We've been doing mostly whole foods for a couple of years now. I started doing research and my mom educated me a lot on the diet (she's very strict herself). Right now, we:
--Eat fresh vegetables and fruit, and some frozen. Never canned.
--Eat organic anything when we can
--Grow our own vegetables chemical/pesticide free, completely naturally
--Drastically cut refined sugar (if I do buy granulated sugar, it's pure organic cane)
--Use raw, local honey for cooking/sweetening instead of sugar
--Use local, heirloom organic wheat (my mom grinds it in her grinder for me). I make ALL my own tortillas, breads, cookies, pizza crusts, etc. with it. It's wonderful and pretty light for WW flour.
--Buy heirloom plants when I can find them (tomatoes, etc.)
--We bought our own week-old bottle calf (which we immediately put on another cow, didn't bottle feed him) and now he is on pasture, solely, and will continue to be until we butcher him in the early fall.
I cook all our meals from scratch (usually make my own sauces, etc.). I do allow my kids to have some snacks like graham crackers that aren't whole foods. We do splurge sometimes on ice cream, etc. on special occasions. Just not on a regular basis. I will grab a candy bar if I'm craving it.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/2/2008 6:37:49 PM
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I have that cookbook, Steph, and love it!! Things to try:
Cream of Vegie Soup (p212)
Vegetable Chile (p434)
Only thing to stay away from is the Pesto Soup (p211.) It's expensive to make and tastes like veggie soup. It's good...I'd just make cheap veggie soup instead. (1 bag frozen Mixed veggies, thyme sprig, 1 clove garlic, salt, white pepper, 4 cups beef broth, and 1 can low-sodium tomatoes- any style, really, although I like crushed so dh won't pick out the tomatoes.)
I think I may use this cookbook to plan menus today.
That sounds good but only in a few months. It's too hot for soup.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 3:00:38 PM
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That's excellent, StephK.
Gluten has been linked to autism and schizophrenia.
I read the article on autism and it did not say, for a hard core fact, that gluten is always connected to autism. I do know some autistic children are sensitive to gluten, but not all. There is no one size fits all.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 3:03:19 PM
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What is good fish to purchase? I have not really bought fish since I moved to Colorado, and before that I would just go to the dock and pick some up when the boats came in for the day, so obviously freshness wasn't an issue.
What kind of fish did you get then? I am not a big fish person, but I will eat some fish if it doesn't have that too "fishy" taste to it.
I get all natural salmon. It is smoked, but raw at the same time. Basically the only 3 ingredients in the fish are salmon, smoke, and salt. So it is organic.
I like seafood and am a big seafood eater. But I will not tolerate any preservatives in my salmon, besides the salt.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 3:05:43 PM
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The thing is if you have a child or relative with autism or schizophrenia the first place to start is making dietary changes so that if there is a problem food then behavior changes can be made fairly painlessly. The problem today is that people automatically think of reaching for some kind of medication first.
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RE: Whole Foods and Clean Eating chatter - 6/4/2008 3:39:12 PM
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It's too hot for soup.
Yeah... I still like a good soup in the summer when I'm staying in the AC. Chicken broth is one of my favorite foods and I crave it. Wierd, I know!!
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