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bluestone -> Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 2:49:08 PM)

WELL IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY POST THEN THAT IS TOO BAD BECAUSE I HAVE A RIGHT TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT I THINK AND FEEL AND I READ THE BIBLE SO DONT SAY THAT I DONT I ALSO AM FREE TO USE WRITTEN ENGLISH ANY DOG GONE WAY I WANT, TO POO POO TO YOU IF YOU HAVE A HEART ATTACK OVER SILLY THINGS LIKE PUNCTUATION AND PARAGRAPHS BESIDE WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE BEING A GRAMMAR SNOB BECAUSE IT IS WRONG AND PROBABLY A SIN I WILL CHECK IN THE MORALITY AND ETHICS FOLDER AND SEE IF THERE IS A THREAD ABOUT IT AND IF IT IS NOT I WILL START ONE SO HERE IT IS HEY WHY DONT YOU JUST CHANGE YOU HANDLE TO MISS MANNERS AND GO WRITE SOME INVITATIONS OR SOMETHING~


Is it unethical for Christians to use poor spelling, grammar, punctuation, or things such as all caps? Is it just an irritant, and a sign of lack of education?



WhiteRoseBlessings -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 2:53:39 PM)

URWrong and UwillAlwaysbeWrong



JimboFletch -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 2:55:06 PM)

I hate to site ewe four the site you've made out of this site.

They're, know spelling errors two correct.
[8D]



WhiteRoseBlessings -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 2:56:11 PM)

Jimbo, you are giving me a headache. [8D]



bluestone -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 3:12:59 PM)

sum spell irrors at accidence. sum are jist vaf ryping. if u use the sillcekr and do whut it sez< it iwll help u yout.



phosadaud -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 4:00:23 PM)

I read once that how you type your emails says something about you and your position. They actually argued that proper grammar, spelling, etc. would actually make you look worse because "important" people don't take the time to proof what they write, etc.

Silly me. I tend to think that if you don't care how you present yourself (in person, in text, etc), it's a poor reflection on yourself and your capabilities....[8D]



elastic -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 4:13:59 PM)

i would just like to say that i am not fond of paragraphs spacing at all i think it is overrated as is any sort of punctuation or period to end the sentence i have felt this way all of my life and believe that it is based on biblical evidence the bible is clear that commas and periods were not used at least when you see the original latin and greek versions i cain't always understand what they are saying but i can see with my own eyes that they did not put periods or commas in there that is an invention of king james people when they wrote the bible so that he would understand it better as he must have been not the smartest king either that or a tyrant as his people had to bow to his whim to make a book that he could understand though i kind of see his point because the hebrew and latin letters are funny and the alphabet doesn't seem as long and they don't have a word for and which i find is really silly muchless having another word for silly and that brings me back to the fact that i do not personally belive that one should use puncutation nor should one put a space to show a new paragraph has started there is really no need to start a new paragraph because every word that i say is so important that it needs to be read putting a space in there would only actually take up more space on the page and i would rather fill those spaces with important words usually my own words and they don't have to be coherant or make any sense but to me they are golden and worth more than the internet in sum total if i could broadcast them to the moon i would and all the little space aliens would know that we as a people can be understood even though paragraphs and punctuations are not important to us they may be to some but not to me because what i have to say is awe inspiring and i am sure they would want to come down to earth live among us and find out more about the Lord and what He has done for me



HighPlainsDrifter -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 4:17:43 PM)

i FINISHED WITH HIGH MARKS AT MY SCOOL, SEW DONT THINK YORE SO HIGH AND MIGHTY CUZ I GOT GOOD PUBLIC EDUCTON. i GOOD WRITER TO EVRYONE SAY. lol



elastic -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 4:19:03 PM)

U R 2 much! LOL



earthless -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 4:39:08 PM)

Why did this thread remind me of THIS?



saraimay75 -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 6:56:34 PM)

Nah we should never ever ever forgive anyone for something they don't know or any mistakes they will make because we all are so darn perfect since we all found God and every single person must live up to that perfection or they are not worth our time.[&:]



car2ner -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 6:57:41 PM)

All I can say is this: do you really want me to read your post? Let me know cause if you are just venting and you don't care if I really read it or understand then keep making it hard to read and understand.

I already have my mental list of posters whom I just skip over.



Rufas2000 -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 7:25:18 PM)

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Is it unethical for Christians to use poor spelling, grammar, punctuation, or things such as all caps? Is it just an irritant, and a sign of lack of education?


I'm going to buck the trend and take a serious swing at this. Most of the time it is not unethical. The only time I have hammered anyone over grammar (and I don't do this anymore) is when they are being way too judgmental or in some other way obnoxious.

One reason I did this is because I suspect these people are doing it on purpose. They want to try to convince everyone of the truth of their positions by making their posts hard to read. This is because they realize their position has holes in it but when you're holier than thou those little details don't matter. In addition, when someone intelligent comes along and pokes holes in their post it is easier to backtrack if the post was hard to understand in the first place. They claim that isn't exactly what they meant, sorry if I confused you. Baffling with bull so to speak.

I agree with the poster who stated that sometimes people do it as a sign of "anti-snobbery". Like they are saying my place with God is far above any of your silly grammar rules.

If that is the reason people don't bother with grammar it is extremely inconsiderate of them. Especially when they are gently corrected or are offered advise to make their posts easier to read.

And yes I can do better but the important thing is to spell words correctly and use paragraphs. I am able to write better but quite honestly it takes me more effort than I can afford to spend on a message board. I trust my point is clear enough.

Edited: your should have been you're. Figured I'd make a boo boo on a thread about grammar.



Ps103 -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 7:39:15 PM)

How intriguing.



GrahamCracker -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 9:11:49 PM)

I notice that sometimes people tell how hard they have studied a certain subject, how much they know and so forth. But for all of that, they cannot put together a coherent sentence. I have had discussions with people and I had trouble reading and understanding their arguments.

That tells me:
1) They are dyslexic. OR
2) They did not do well in school. OR
3) They don't know much about study and research.

Some of the topics we cover in Bible study have a great deal to do with basic grammar. If they don't know English grammar well, I have a difficult time thinking that they have read it well. They might be able to pronounce all of the words but might not understand all of the possible meanings of certain sentences.

I am not denigrating their lack of education. Maybe they didn't have the opportunities I had. But if that is so, why do they have to be so argumentative?



stellaluna -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 9:23:54 PM)

Not unethical or immoral, but a reflection about a person's ability to communicate--or not.

There are different kinds of people that fall into this category:
1) those who don't know better
2) those who know better, but don't care, or are just lazy
3) those who think they're using words properly and have good grammar, but don't



Doc65 -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 10:10:31 PM)

I think poor grammar, spelling, punctuation is the literary equivalent of hitting huge chuckhole at about 70 MPH; unpleasant, disconcerting and really distracts and detracts from reading what might otherwise be interesting, enlightening or edifying...

My sister-in-law (who is a teacher) says that part of the problem is that a lot of educators today are of the opinion that spelling, grammer and such aren't important so long as a person can get their point across - how on earth does one get their point across if it's unintelligible to begin with?

A sin? No. Painful? Yes. And speaking of pain, time for another pill...[sm=unsure.gif]



Ps103 -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 10:19:44 PM)

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how on earth does one get their point across if it's unintelligible to begin with?


There have been posts on the board that have been so bad I could not decipher them for the life of me--I couldn't tell if they were TOS violations or not.[&:]

I do not think it is a sin for a Christian to have poor to non-existent grammar skills, but I sure do hate that it gives something for the atheists to hold up and say "See--they're all morons!"



WhiteRoseBlessings -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 10:23:39 PM)

What an excellent point!



Doc65 -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 10:24:16 PM)

I am a moron: "more on" the side of what is right - Christ Jesus!
Sorry for the bad pun - see what happens when my meds kick in?!



1love1God1way -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 10:28:09 PM)

Spelling mistakes are one thing, but some people look like they are writers of the LOLcats.



bluestone -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 10:48:27 PM)

I do wonder at times how people who appear so ignorant have somehow decided that their take on scripture is correct, regardless of the well written and thought out disagreements with their posts.

If you can't spell ...how can you read and comprehend scripture, or much of anything else?



1love1God1way -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 11:01:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bluestone

I do wonder at times how people who appear so ignorant have somehow decided that their take on scripture is correct, regardless of the well written and thought out disagreements with their posts.

If you can't spell ...how can you read and comprehend scripture, or much of anything else?


Get the LOLcat Bible.



Ps103 -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 11:05:38 PM)

quote:

Get the LOLcat Bible.


My pug likes it a lot.[:D]



LCannon -> RE: Grammar, Language, Spelling: Ethical and Moral Issue? (5/15/2008 11:11:28 PM)

For best or worse, grammar, language and spelling is the first exposure between people. I refuse to respond to texting, vulgarity and rudeness. 'Hey!' is an unacceptable for 'Excuse me(sir; I know, that's a bit over the top)...' I just consider the source.



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