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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/28/2008 12:31:29 PM
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ljmac
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Well Bo is right, we need to start with ourselves first. We have become a bloated, fat nation. Spoiled. Other countires are our neighbors. Alot of countries don't have an air conditioner, tv, or anything remotely close for miles and miles.
They don't have the basics like water and food. We fussing over Suv's , Ac's that in itself shows where we are.
He needs to start with himself first. And then mind his own business.
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/28/2008 1:56:42 PM
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How is that even remotely possible if this is the thoroughgoing racist nation you seem to think it is?
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/28/2008 1:58:52 PM
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DarleneSchreiber
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How is that even remotely possible if this is the thoroughgoing racist nation you seem to think it is?
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Did he tell you that personally?
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/28/2008 2:10:44 PM
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Oh my gosh! Now I AM ticked!!! Why didn't someone tell me about this? My husband is the only wage earner and we have five kids we've chosen to raise! How come we still have to pay taxes???
Wait...it's not that Earned Income thing, is it? I've heard of that, too. It's something like, you don't pay taxes but still get a rebate. Hmmmm...sounds a little like cheating to me.
That's only part of it. ; ) It isn't cheating when the government supplies the software, you check your boxes, you paid $0 or up to $27, it says $xxxx is what you get. Remember though you don't get the big $$$ EIC and the kid break at once.
Anyway you haven't told me who is paying for it yet. Are you? Or are those foreign governments and entitities buying bonds paying for it of which China is either 1 or 2 on the list? Who is financing all of this US government debt?
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/28/2008 2:15:51 PM
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"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times… and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama said.
So what part of that statement is false?
well, for one, "elitists" like Obama are TOTALLY clueless to the fact that for alot of "normal" people out here in the "REAL WORLD".......SUVs are the most "PRACTICAL" vehicle to drive.....
amazingly enough.....has anyone seen a real, live presidential motorcade? ever count the number of SUVs that are in there????
regardless of what anyone says....the prius is NOT for everyone...
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/28/2008 2:17:27 PM
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DarleneSchreiber
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Anyway you haven't told me who is paying for it yet. Are you? Or are those foreign governments and entitities buying bonds paying for it of which China is either 1 or 2 on the list? Who is financing all of this US government debt?
I did tell you...WE'RE paying for it ourselves. In bookkeeping terms, the "credit" has been applied, then the "debit" will be applied when we file taxes next year. In all likelihood, the actual funds are probably coming from the SS account and probably will never really be paid back.
It's not really physical money, per se, anyway. It's all on paper.
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/28/2008 8:10:23 PM
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I'm just reminded of that when I see "China"...especially these days when many Chinese families have just lost their only child. After having that one kid they're allowed to have, and many having been sterilized so they'll have no more, it's a haunting tragedy. So there ya go...that's it. Twisted as it may be, that's my logic! 
As for what's constitutional and what's made into law, we know the courts are making law these days...not even congress, really, so we have no say! There was a day when people would say the same thing about sodomite marriage...that it "would most likely be shot down". Yet here we are.
As to China, as much as I believe there are things for improvement, we are still quite a ways from being like China.
The 'court's' impact on the lawmaking in this country is minimal when compared to the two other branches of gov't, from what I have observed both professionally and personally. While there are plenty of decisions I disagree with, they are the least dangerous branch of government.
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 4:49:34 AM
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If "Ways to save money on gas" was a question on Family Feud, the number one answer would probably be, buy a more fuel effiicient vehicle.
If "Ways to stay healthy and save money on food" were a question, the number one answer would probably be, eat less.
If "Ways to save money on electricity in the summer" were a question, the answer would probably be, "keep your themostat at a decent temperature", probably above 72.
In other words, all those are reasonable suggestions, all the experts have been making for years, but all of a sudden, Barack Obama makes them, and some people assume the next thing he'll be advocating is baby rationing.
Is Barack Obama becoming the most feared and hated man in American history? Are we looking to John McCain as the man to save our country from total doom, destruction and chaos? A man who will save us from the wicked Obama gestapo who has plans on sending the Jeremiah Wright Youth Brigade into our homes and snatching the forks out of our mouths, taking the guns and bibles hard working typical white people bitterly cling to, smashing our air conditioners, calling our wives and daughters "sweetie" and burning our precious Ford Expeditions? Help us Obie Wan McCain, you're our only hope!
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 9:09:04 AM
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DarleneSchreiber
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My family doesn't need anyone telling us how much fuel or food we can or cannot have/afford. We have enough sense to figure this out for ourselves. If we can't afford the price of gas these days, and we can't, then we drive less...we consolidate our trips as much as possible. We won't be going on a vacation. We'll shop for groceries more creatively. We're purchasing food from Angel Food. We're shopping more often at places like Goodwill. We're keeping the thermostat set just a little more out of our comfort zone.
We're not so brainless and "sheep-like" that we have to be told to do this stuff. And that's what used to define America. But now we have a population that can't seem to think for itself. And it's those people that will vote for someone like Obama...and I believe he will be our next president.
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 10:56:55 AM
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In other words, all those are reasonable suggestions, all the experts have been making for years, but all of a sudden, Barack Obama makes them, and some people assume the next thing he'll be advocating is baby rationing.
Reasonable people would do them without being told. But of course here in US? We are too bloated, we use tooo much oil and gas, we are just too greedy, that's the truth.
Forget that there is 249? other countries with 5.5 billion people, we don't care, as long as we and our pets are comfortable and fat.
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 12:11:49 PM
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If "Ways to save money on electricity in the summer" were a question, the answer would probably be, "keep your themostat at a decent temperature", probably above 72.
Sheesh, what are you people Eskimos? Who in the heck keeps their thermostat at 72? Where I live it would be running constantly from April through October.
Personally I keep mine in the mid to high 80's (86-88). I try to run my ceiling fans mostly and keep the windows and doors open, once it gets warmer I'll put a fan in the window. But then again I prefer to be warm than cold. I grew up in Chicago and grew soooo tired of being cold.
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 12:43:09 PM
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Gack! In Florida you would roast if the AC were at the temperature! I keep mine at 75 only beause I live surrounded by trees. And it runs from mid April until Decemberish.
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 1:24:02 PM
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DarleneSchreiber
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I say keep your thermostat right where you want it, if you can afford it. That's my point...if you can afford the gas for an SUV, more power to you. If you can't then you'll find some other way. That's what is so great about living in the US. That's what is called "freedom".
However, there are some that are so jealous and envious and covetous, that if they can't have it, they don't want anyone to! And they'll kick up quite a fuss and try to make everyone else feel bad.
Hmmmm...know any folks like that?
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 2:38:13 PM
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ljmac
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In other words, all those are reasonable suggestions, all the experts have been making for years, but all of a sudden, Barack Obama makes them, and some people assume the next thing he'll be advocating is baby rationing.
Reasonable people would do them without being told. But of course here in US? We are too bloated, we use tooo much oil and gas, we are just too greedy, that's the truth.
Forget that there is 249? other countries with 5.5 billion people, we don't care, as long as we and our pets are comfortable and fat.
Your liberal (hate America) side is showing. When other countries need help, it's the US they come to. Not Canada. Not Kenya. Not Morocco. People escape other coutries to come here.
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 2:49:38 PM
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The point, tracydolls and others, is that freedom loving people don't want government telling them how much they can eat, what type of vehicle they can buy or cannot buy, or what temperature their thermostat must be set on.
Yes, of course.
And if your neighbour wants to bury his used car batteries in the ground next to your ground, he is free to do so. If he wants to have asbestos rubble lying in his front yard, where the neighbourhood kids can get at it, although they are not supposed to step on his front yard, he is free to do so.
Heck, he can just pour out his toxic paint leftovers and smoke everywhere he feels like, because he made the money and can spent it anyway he like.
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 4:24:48 PM
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Regarding SUVs, in case anyone hasn't noticed, the market is taking care of them. Sales of SUVs are in the tank. I drive a Civic by the way.
If we're willing to let government regulate food portions, where do we draw the line and what will be next?
jf to Obama: Keep your hands off my dinner.
< Message edited by jfwink -- 5/29/2008 4:32:10 PM >
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 7:18:58 PM
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Regarding SUVs, in case anyone hasn't noticed, the market is taking care of them. Sales of SUVs are in the tank. I drive a Civic by the way.
If we're willing to let government regulate food portions, where do we draw the line and what will be next?
jf to Obama: Keep your hands off my dinner.
Where has Obama discussed gov't food rationing? Do you have a link?
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.if you can afford the gas for an SUV, more power to you.
No thanks. High fuel use, even if people can afford it, drives up the demand and the cost. I am not suggesting a ban on SUV's, but don't expect me to be happy about it when gas is $4.15/gal.
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 9:20:25 PM
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DarleneSchreiber
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Where has Obama discussed gov't food rationing? Do you have a link?
I haven't found a transcript of the speech (maybe some of you can) but here's where this all started (see OP):
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356765,00.html
And here's the line from that article that makes the wheels turn:
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Obama added that driving your SUV, eating all you want and keeping warm were not possible because, "that's not leadership. That's not going to happen."
What do you think he's talking about?
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RE: Obama's thoughts on SUVs, AC, and dinner - 5/29/2008 11:35:36 PM
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Your liberal (hate America) side is showing. When other countries need help, it's the US they come to. Not Canada. Not Kenya. Not Morocco. People escape other coutries to come here.
your right. don't touch the oil and wine. I would want to live here too after being starved to death. What we throw away whole villages could live off!
Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
Oil is traded in dollars, that was part of the reason we had to get Saddam, he threatened to trade his oil in eurodollars. That's why France was so mad.
We can try to conserve some energy now, but really I think it is too late and a dollar short.
If telling the truth about US is liberal then ok.
We are too fat and greedy.
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What are you people dragging around? The entire wardrobe? My sister got three kids and a regular car.
Yeah but your sister probaly got three REGULAR kids, not three obese kids.
See the story on Yahoo about how these kids are obese at alarming rates.
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