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RE: Other Forces - 6/19/2008 1:47:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: oldmethuselah

Relevant to THIS thread, atheistinpeace, is a strong underlying position that you have taken that PRECLUDES - out of hand - the alternate explanations ("ghosts" etc.).

I personally do not believe in the "ghosts" as they are portrayed here, BUT I have merely tried to point out that your worldview does not have sufficient latitude to allow a full exploration of the phenomena.

This, I believe, is connected to the universe you live in.

In that universe, professors WELCOME criticism and being proven wrong...

in my universe, which includes a place which can be found on a map - University of Surrey - and another place called the University of Toronto - as well as twenty five years of colleagues from many major universities across this world, I have YET to see these happy professors who love to be proved wrong...

Now, I am not saying that such places do not exist, I only ask you to tell us - by naming them and their location on our maps - where these happy creatures live (not counting Dawkins mind) from you OWN experience.

SO... in the SAME WAY... I am asking YOU to adopt a Similar Policy with regard to this "ghostly" thread... instead of ruling out things which you think impossible (an atheistic trait I used to share)... merely ask that the proponents of such seemingly wild theories exhibit a credibility and rationality in their answers.

This does NOT mean AGREEING with them, but it DOES mean approaching things without the dampening effect of your own strong pre-suppositions.


OM, I'm finding it really difficult to hold a discussion with you when your replies don't pertain to what I've just written. The above pertains to a thread that was deleted; this thread is about the paranormal. You've tried to start something on a) academics, b) ID v evolution and c) Ravi Zacharias. In each case please start a new thread on them if you want to debate those topics.

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RE: Other Forces - 6/19/2008 8:10:34 PM   
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OM, I'm finding it really difficult to hold a discussion with you when your replies don't pertain to what I've just written. The above pertains to a thread that was deleted; this thread is about the paranormal. You've tried to start something on a) academics, b) ID v evolution and c) Ravi Zacharias. In each case please start a new thread on them if you want to debate those topics.

AiP


Your worldview, along with any limitations or enhancements it might offer, are relevant to your responses here.

This can be said of all of us, of course, but to NEGLECT to point it out is to ignore "the elephant in the room".
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RE: Other Forces - 6/20/2008 12:20:40 PM   
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I'm having a hard time with this. What I'm really looking for in all these posts is a solid way of explaining in a concise manner why my faith doesn't support the notion of 'ghosts' and more importantly, messing with the paranormal. If you only had one reasonable size paragraph to convey that, what exactly would you say? I might need to steal your words so don't say if you're not ok with that.

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