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freakofnature -> YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 10:26:35 AM)
VICTORY! ALAS Something to cheer about, Gun rights upheld! Story HERE

freakofnature -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 10:29:42 AM)
LIVE BLOGGING THE SCOTUS HERE Minute to minute coverage.

blessedinnyc -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 10:39:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freakofnature VICTORY! ALAS Something to cheer about, Gun rights upheld! Story HERE This is excellent news for second-amendment rights. Hopefully, this will mean the right-to-carry will eventually extend to New York. The court's been on a libertarian streak recently, which is only good news for people who favor civil liberties and smaller government.

mapachito13 -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 10:40:27 AM)
Which further proves that conservatives can't count past two when it comes to constitutional amendments. Fourth amendment? That's too high of a number!!! [;)]

freakofnature -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 10:45:08 AM)
quote: Which further proves that conservatives can't count past two when it comes to constitutional amendments. Fourth amendment? That's too high of a number!!! This only serves to prove liberals would love to rewrite history... my friend mapachito13 See attached link for constitution info: Constitution Amendment four is illegal search and seizure

freakofnature -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 10:50:07 AM)
Supreme court is also getting pounded on approval ratings: Approval of SCOTUS down over last month

mapachito13 -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 10:59:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freakofnature Amendment four is illegal search and seizure Which this current government seems ready to trample on in their WOT with tacit blessings from the right!! BTW, What makes you think I'm a lib? Or is that the usual "label him a pinko, commie, socialist, liberal, etc." ad hominem attacks that conservatives are so famous for?

SteveSund -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 11:01:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freakofnature Supreme court is also getting pounded on approval ratings: Approval of SCOTUS down over last month Fortunately, they are appointed for life. I am optimistic about this case, but I will have to read the holding and see how it applies to the rest of the country.

freakofnature -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 11:06:18 AM)
quote: BTW, What makes you think I'm a lib? Your statement: quote: Which further proves that conservatives... There aren't many options, Liberal or Conservative the only thing left is a wishy washy so-called independent.

freakofnature -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 11:20:21 AM)
quote: SteveSund said: but I will have to read the holding and see how it applies to the rest of the country. FULL COPY OF DECISSION HERE

HighPlainsDrifter -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 11:38:20 AM)
Well, for as many disappointments as I've had with President Bush, I can at least thank him for two great appointments to the Supreme Court. I'm very pleased with this decision.

stamper_ben -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 11:41:25 AM)
One of the greatest quotes in Scalia's opinion is this: quote: In interpreting this text, we are guided by the principle that “[t]he Constitution was written to be understood by the voters; its words and phrases were used in their normal and ordinary as distinguished from technical meaning.” Yes.

djv1255 -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 12:12:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blessedinnyc This is excellent news for second-amendment rights. Hopefully, this will mean the right-to-carry will eventually extend to New York. The NYT story quotes Scalia saying the ruling doesn't apply to laws against conceal carry.

djv1255 -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 12:16:34 PM)
This is a good example why we should vote for McCain not a third party. You know Obama's SCOTUS wouldn't have voted for this. [&o][:o][:'(][:@][:(][>:]

EStan -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 12:21:30 PM)
I hope this ruling leads to a decrease in crime in our nation's capital - I personally believe it will.

mapachito13 -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 12:23:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freakofnature quote: BTW, What makes you think I'm a lib? Your statement: quote: Which further proves that conservatives... There aren't many options, Liberal or Conservative the only thing left is a wishy washy so-called independent. Then I prefer to be a "wishy-washy" independent thinker not worshipping Rush or beholden to any political credo of the right OR left. The only credo that's non-negotiable in my opinion is the Nicene one. If I am going to be a sheep, I'll follow the "Good Shepherd". Rush doesn't hold THAT title!! Besides if I'm wishy-washy so is McCain. Iraq - conservative. Immigration - liberal. See Republicans can be "wishy-washy" too! BTW, I am not against the ruling. It gives the right to bear arms but still allows for registration which is a very balanced approach. Otherwise, felons would have the right to bear arms too!

todd_t -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 12:25:34 PM)
quote: I hope this ruling leads to a decrease in crime in our nation's capital - I personally believe it will. IMO, all this ruling will accomplish is to increase DC's annual body count and make no one more secure. I don't buy the thought that everyone packing heat makes the world a safer place. If I wanted to live in that type of society, I'd move to Baghdad.

blessedinnyc -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 12:30:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: djv1255 This is a good example why we should vote for McCain not a third party. You know Obama's SCOTUS wouldn't have voted for this. [&o][:o][:'(][:@][:(][>:] There's a lot of things to balance. I'm willing to put up with an anti-gun SC for a few years if it means cutting the deficit by raising taxes and ending the war.

mapachito13 -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 12:41:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: todd_t quote: I hope this ruling leads to a decrease in crime in our nation's capital - I personally believe it will. IMO, all this ruling will accomplish is to increase DC's annual body count and make no one more secure. I don't buy the thought that everyone packing heat makes the world a safer place. If I wanted to live in that type of society, I'd move to Baghdad. [:D][:D] ROTFLOL!!! [:D][:D]

EStan -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 12:49:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: todd_t quote: I hope this ruling leads to a decrease in crime in our nation's capital - I personally believe it will. IMO, all this ruling will accomplish is to increase DC's annual body count and make no one more secure. I don't buy the thought that everyone packing heat makes the world a safer place. If I wanted to live in that type of society, I'd move to Baghdad. Well, I suppose we shall see.

freakofnature -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 1:06:20 PM)
quote: Then I prefer to be a "wishy-washy" independent thinker not worshipping Rush or beholden to any political credo of the right OR left. The only credo that's non-negotiable in my opinion is the Nicene one. If I am going to be a sheep, I'll follow the "Good Shepherd". Rush doesn't hold THAT title!! Besides if I'm wishy-washy so is McCain. Iraq - conservative. Immigration - liberal. See Republicans can be "wishy-washy" too! BTW, I am not against the ruling. It gives the right to bear arms but still allows for registration which is a very balanced approach. Otherwise, felons would have the right to bear arms too! I am not a fan of McCain for several reasons, his immigration stance being one of a few, first of all... Secondly. I am not beholden to Rush either, just keep in mind that I am a conservative first not a republican. My thoughts are my own, I am not sorry though that that happens to be in line with some of the greatest conservative minds our country has to offer. I was conservative well before I heard of Rush Limbaugh.

stamper_ben -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 1:12:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blessedinnyc quote: ORIGINAL: djv1255 This is a good example why we should vote for McCain not a third party. You know Obama's SCOTUS wouldn't have voted for this. [&o][:o][:'(][:@][:(][>:] There's a lot of things to balance. I'm willing to put up with an anti-gun SC for a few years if it means cutting the deficit by raising taxes and ending the war. A few years? These are LIFETIME appointments to the court. It's not like they leave with the administration that had them appointed.[8\|]

blessedinnyc -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 1:17:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stamper_ben quote: ORIGINAL: blessedinnyc quote: ORIGINAL: djv1255 This is a good example why we should vote for McCain not a third party. You know Obama's SCOTUS wouldn't have voted for this. [&o][:o][:'(][:@][:(][>:] There's a lot of things to balance. I'm willing to put up with an anti-gun SC for a few years if it means cutting the deficit by raising taxes and ending the war. A few years? These are LIFETIME appointments to the court. It's not like they leave with the administration that had them appointed.[8\|] Yeah, but you typically get an appointment every few years. Deficits create debt that lasts not only for a lifetime- but FOREVER- at least until it is paid off with a surplus.

todd_t -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 1:22:17 PM)
Mind you, I'm not against the Second Amendment or lawful gun ownership - I just don't like the suggestion by some that guns added on top of existing guns will lead to America being a crime-free utopia. Call me crazy, but I'm uncomfortable the notion of using fear as a motivator for civil obedience (in a domestic scenario).

tafkam -> RE: YES! Sometimes the SCOTUS does get it right! (6/26/2008 1:29:00 PM)
quote: BTW, What makes you think I'm a lib? Or is that the usual "label him a pinko, commie, socialist, liberal, etc." ad hominem attacks that conservatives are so famous for? Probably the fact that, so far, you'cve defended every liberal position that's come along. Isn't it odd that liberals don't like to be called liberals?

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