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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/16/2008 12:49:49 PM
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bob97
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I was saying we wont fall for the false religion because we know the truth. Therefore, we will be taken when the rapture occurs.
When does that occur Thessa?
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/16/2008 2:05:48 PM
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I was saying we wont fall for the false religion because we know the truth. Therefore, we will be taken when the rapture occurs.
When does that occur Thessa?
Bob
But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Matthew 24:36
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/16/2008 3:21:50 PM
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Thessa...did you ever wonder why God would tells us so much about the conditions that happen to the world if in fact the church is no longer on earth? We know that Israel doesn't change their acceptances of Christ until the very end so telling them doesn't do much good.
And why would Paul go to the trouble to tell us what will happen if no one is here to be involved?
Why all this warning to an empty room?
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/16/2008 3:26:13 PM
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/16/2008 3:31:22 PM
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We know that Israel doesn't change their acceptances of Christ until the very end so telling them doesn't do much good.
Bob
Where did you get that from?
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/16/2008 9:22:38 PM
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Tressa it looks like we have been ordered to cease-and-desist any farther discussion on this subject so I guess we'll have to do it another time and place.
That being said, you need to research the subject because that is the main thrust of Revelation. 
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/17/2008 9:32:36 PM
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Thessa - Take it to PM's or start a new thread since it is off topic here.
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/18/2008 3:12:00 PM
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Tressa...sorry I tried but it said you didn't want to be disclosed and didn't receive PM's.
You might want to check your settings.
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/19/2008 8:59:26 PM
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Tressa...I give up. I tried to send you a PM but it could not be delivered. You sent one to me but I could not send one to you.
Sorry!
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/20/2008 12:02:31 AM
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It's really hard to tell, but I think the anti - Christ will come from Europe.
Who is the beast? (Revelation 13) Part 3
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John Wesley founded the Methodist Church in England in the 1700s. Like most other Protestants in his day, he had absolutely no interest in the speculative fancies of Jesuit Futurism. In the 1750s, as Wesley was studying prophecy, he realized the 1,260-year period would soon come to an end. In 1754, he published his much-respected New Testament with Explanatory Notes. After applying the first beast of Revelation 13:1-10 to the papacy, he contemplated the rise of the second beast. Underneath verse 11, John Wesley wrote, "Another . . . beast . . . But he is not yet come, though he cannot be far off; for he is to appear at the end of the forty-two months of the first beast. And he had two horns like a lamb-a mild, innocent appearance" (John Wesley, Notes on Revelation, 1754. p. 457). The founder of the Methodist Church was right on target! His footnotes here were more reliable than many of C. I. Scofield.
Rev 13
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11. It would amaze the whole world, for it's deadly wound would be healed (Rev 13:3). In August, 1929, in a letter written by the Pope in Current History magazine, the Pope said, "...EFFORTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO HEAL THE WOUND." - p.847.
Daniel, Revelation & World History Reveal The Antichrist
Now think of the second beast of revelation 13
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"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon." (Revelation 13:11)
Has two horns of a lamb. Presented as a Christian nation. Spoke like a dragon. Isn't really a Christian nation.
The U.S had Christian roots, hence it had "Two horns of a lamb." But it also has corruption, hence it "spoke like a dragon." It describes the constant struggle in America and its conflict between good (ie: doing God's will) and evil.
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"And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men," (Revelation 13:13 KJVA)
Atomic Bombs. Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Nuclear weapons. Which nation has enough nukes to destroy the world about eight times over?
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/20/2008 12:18:03 AM
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And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues. (Rev 17:15)
The first beast rises out of the sea. If water represents a densely populated area, then it makes sense that the first beast rose out of a densely populated are (which is where the papacy rose). Then, if the second beast rose out of the earth, it makes sense that it rose out of a sparsely populated area (which was true of the U.S).
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And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. (Rev 17:10 KJV)
Five are fallen (ie: Egypt, Babylon, etc..). The one that was at the time that this was written was Rome (papacy). The other is not yet come (the U.S).
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And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. (Rev 17:10-11 KJV)
This seems to be referring to the time period after the second beast of Rev 13 rose. The beast that was (the papacy) is not (when he receives his deadly wound, he is not). Even he is the eighth (when his wound heals, he is the eighth) and is of the seven (he is the 6th beast).
I also suggest you read
WHO IS THE ANTICHRIST?
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 9/27/2008 12:56:41 PM
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And so we have another round of the popular game- Pin the tail on the Antichrist. What a waste of time and effort.
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 10/11/2008 10:40:00 PM
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Reba
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What do the Scriptures say about antichrist? King James version doesnt' use the term in Revelations. The only places we can read of antichrist is in the "little books of John".
1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time. .....
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
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2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 10/11/2008 11:19:02 PM
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There have been and will be many Antichrist but there will be a finial Antichrist.
Gog will lead an alliance of Muslim Nations against Israel. We know that the land of Magog is Russia and Putin could very well be Gog. What has Putin been doing in the Muslim Nations of late…forming a coalition?
Ezekiel 38:1-6 ( KJV ) 1And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, 3And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: 5Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: 6Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
Bob
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 10/12/2008 12:18:32 AM
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Reba
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Bob 97
Would you please explane your understanding of 2 JOHN 1,9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
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RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? - 10/12/2008 10:30:47 AM
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bob97
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Hi Reba..to answer your question;
If we do not pay attention to God's teaching and obey, we will not have any kind of relationship with Him...on the other hand if we do obey the teachings of Christ we will have an eternal relationship with both Father and Son.
Do you see it differently?
Bob
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