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"I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 5:47:28 PM
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Isaiah29
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Greetings in Christ
At a McCain-Palin rally in Waukesha, Wisconsin on Oct. 9th, 2008, one of the town hall participants was given a microphone. With microphone in hand, the man loudly proclaimed: "I am mad!". He then went on to explain that it was not the economy that was provoking his anger, but rather the socialists such as Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, and the other "hooligans" who were taking over our country. He then challenged both Senator McCain and Governor Palin to fight on our behalf and to "go get them!", essentially urging them to get mad too!
Sometimes it takes simple passionate language to communicate our deepest needs and our most profound desires. What this gentleman in Wisconsin voiced was the collective discontent of millions of Americans who deplore what they are seeing done to her once proud institutions by a ruthless group of socialist politicians, who are intent upon nationalizing our industries, such as banking, housing, health care, transportation, energy, education, ad infinitum and thereby ever expanding and concentrating the power of the federal government to govern our lives down to the minutest detail. And they want to be the ones with total control over all of our lives. Socialists only want socialism when they think they will be the ones in charge, otherwise they prefer democracy. In other words, socialists would prefer to have total control, but absent that, they will settle for partial control, until such time as they can seize and maintain total power.
Now for the first time in the nation's history, there is a very real chance that the socialists, and by extension the communists too, will have total control over the country's Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government. Wielding this level of power they will be able to pass whatever legislation they see fit. So they will nationalize our industries; remember Maxine Water's statement on May 22, 2008 at the Congressional hearing on the energy crisis: "This liberal will be all about socializing... uh... uh... will be about basically taking over...and the government running all of your companies". She was not kidding. That is exactly what they have in mind. Incidentally, Rep. Maxine Waters was also a big supporter and beneficiary of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac whose unregulated lending practices and unchecked avarice and greed led to the collapse of the Housing industry, which devastated the Banking industry, as well the largest insurance carrier in the world, AIG, and plunged our economy into a deep recession.
So welcome, comrades! For those who have been thus far asleep at the switch, the communist revolution in America has been stealthily progressing, not with a bang, but a whimper, behind the scenes, under cover of darkness, by legislative and judicial fiat. And now their seditious candidate has emerged from the under the shadow of ACORN and the Chicago Political Machine, and his name is Barack Obama, whose friends, associates, and influences form a impressive phalanx of racists, abortionists, communists, socialists, islamacists, radical environmentalists and just plain crooks. Just about every group trying to undermine the country and destroy her foundations have found a willing ally in Barack Obama. He is the savior of the left, their very own Obamassiah.
So it is easy to understand the anger and frustration of those of us who have spent our lives trying to build up and protect this great country from the dark forces and alien ideologies of those who would destroy it, only to find the values and institutions of the greatest nation on earth being systematically annihilated by those very people who have sworn to "support and defend the Constitution", yet at the same time doing everything within their power to undermine it. Am I mad? You bet I am mad, and getting madder by the day!
In Christ,
Ariel
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 5:52:14 PM
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Longfingers1
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So it is easy to understand the anger and frustration of those of us who have spent our lives trying to build up and protect this great country from the dark forces and alien ideologies of those who would destroy it, only to find the values and institutions of the greatest nation on earth being systematically annihilated by those very people who have sworn to "support and defend the Constitution", yet at the same time doing everything within their power to undermine it. Am I mad? You bet I am mad, and getting madder by the day!
Ariel
Just like many are loosing their savings, 401 K, jobs, not able to get adaquate health benefits, ect. are angry and full of frustration who have spent their lives trying to build up and protect this great country from the dark forces and alien ideologies of those who would destroy it, only to find the values and institutions of the greatest nation on earth being systematically annihilated by those very people who have sworn to "support and defend the Constitution", yet at the same time doing everything within their power to undermine it ... okay... 
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 6:24:23 PM
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ManimalX
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Well said, Isaiah. The meeting you wrote about was like some kind of big tent revival. It was going on two hours last time I checked in, and the crowd was on FIRE. Not only did the "I AM MAD" man speak for millions, but McCain actually dropped his "reach across the aisle" bi-partisan garbage and named the NAMES of two of the thugs that are to blame for the Fannie/Freddie fiasco: Barney Frank and Chriss Dodd. Not only that, but he said there would be accountability, starting with these two, and didn't let 0bama off the hook for his share of the blame, too. Palin was also doing well. She made sure nobody forgot 0bama's support of baby-murdering, an issue that the dominant liberal mass media is trying so hard to avoid and dismiss.
Palin was on fire, McCain was on fire, the crowd was on fire.... hopefully McCain got a clue and is going to campaign the right way for the 28 days left.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 6:50:41 PM
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zamdad
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This thread is a perfect example of how HATE permeates our political system and how the religious right has substituted the political system for the power of God.
To suggest that "reaching across the aisle" is somehow a bad thing and that instead one should just force people to embrace your political ideology or you're no longer welcome in this country is not only scary, but suggestive of the violence and evil to come. I will risk socialism over a dictatorship and police state any day.
I pray for our country and more importantly, I pray for the survival of the Christian church in America. 
"APPLAUDS"  Very well said, indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, it is too bad that we have let political ideology get in the way of looking out for one another as Christ commended us to. It's too bad that we, citizens and the church, have allowed the government to take on the role of caretaker. That we look to the government to meet all our needs. That under the guise of racism and discrimination, the government mandated that banks will lend to people who can't afford to be in a home.
McCain has been reaching across the aisle for years. It's one of the reasons most conservatives were not thrilled about him as the nominee. McCain will continue to do what's best for the country, not what looks best while filing his own pockets like Frank, Dodd, Pelosi, Waters, Shumer, and the host of others from both sides of the aisle.
If you're willing to embrace socialism, you won't have any choice but to submit when the leader declares martial law. It's not hatred, Evangel10, like the OP said: it's anger! And, for the record, anger can be righteous.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 7:06:27 PM
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What does anything in Ariel's post have to do with the "religious right" or the Church? That retort is so interesting to me. Anyone who dares question the "wisdom" of the elite left in this country that led us by the nose for the last several decades like the blind ignorant sheep that we are - led us right down the path to socialism, one step at a time, one "education reform" at a time, one politically correct ACLU lawsuit at a time...led us and conditioned us to this point that the majority of Americans are not only voting for socialism, they're actually begging for it...we're pathetic. Anyone who dares to point that out, with absolutely no reference to anything Biblical or religious (I'll reread it to double check but I didn't see a single word), is attacked as a "right-wing Christian" out of hand. And the saddest thing is that's the only retort that will be offered because the justification for the assault on our Constitution that we're witnessing right now can't be defended...but they've got our society exactly where they've wanted us for a couple of generations now - and they don't even have to launch a reasonable defense because the American people are now brainwashed, lazy, and too ignorant to know better. Wow.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 7:16:15 PM
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His_4_Ever
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ORIGINAL: zamdad
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ORIGINAL: campbe33
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ORIGINAL: Evangel70
This thread is a perfect example of how HATE permeates our political system and how the religious right has substituted the political system for the power of God.
To suggest that "reaching across the aisle" is somehow a bad thing and that instead one should just force people to embrace your political ideology or you're no longer welcome in this country is not only scary, but suggestive of the violence and evil to come. I will risk socialism over a dictatorship and police state any day.
I pray for our country and more importantly, I pray for the survival of the Christian church in America.
"APPLAUDS" Very well said, indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, it is too bad that we have let political ideology get in the way of looking out for one another as Christ commended us to. It's too bad that we, citizens and the church, have allowed the government to take on the role of caretaker. That we look to the government to meet all our needs. That under the guise of racism and discrimination, the government mandated that banks will lend to people who can't afford to be in a home.
McCain has been reaching across the aisle for years. It's one of the reasons most conservatives were not thrilled about him as the nominee. McCain will continue to do what's best for the country, not what looks best while filing his own pockets like Frank, Dodd, Pelosi, Waters, Shumer, and the host of others from both sides of the aisle.
If you're willing to embrace socialism, you won't have any choice but to submit when the leader declares martial law. It's not hatred, Evangel10, like the OP said: it's anger! And, for the record, anger can be righteous.
You're reading more into Evangel70's comment than is there. I don't believe he/she was advocating Socialism. I can't speak for the others, but I do not favor Socialism. What you, yourself write about Socialism is pretty much the same as Christians trying to force their will on others. People should have freewill to make their own choices whether Christian's agree with them or not. I believe that's how God planned it, not to say a Christian should not stand up for cause they believe in. I just believe trying to force a person into belief is wrong.
McCain doesn't need to fill his pockets when he has a wife worth over a 100 million dollars. He just needs to lookout for her interest.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 7:21:54 PM
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ManimalX
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This thread is a perfect example of how HATE permeates our political system and how the religious right has substituted the political system for the power of God.
To suggest that "reaching across the aisle" is somehow a bad thing and that instead one should just force people to embrace your political ideology or you're no longer welcome in this country is not only scary, but suggestive of the violence and evil to come. I will risk socialism over a dictatorship and police state any day.
I pray for our country and more importantly, I pray for the survival of the Christian church in America.
This post is a perfect example of how EMOTION permeates the liberal left and how they have substituted biblical reason and common sense for feelings.
Politically "reaching across the aisle" IS a bad thing when the hand you are reaching out to hates you and everything you stand for. If I am right, why should I compromise and introduce wrong into my right? All that does is give power to the wrong and weaken the right.
Now, I am not a liberal and am therefore not ruled solely by emotion, so reason obviously dictates that there has to be SOME compromise SOMETIMES. However, John McCain is wrong to think that constant and regular compromise is a good leadership quality. Have you ever stopped to consider the fact that it is almost always Republicans who do the "reaching across the aisle" to Democrats? Why don't Democrats such as Barry Hussein 0bama do more "reaching across the aisle" if it is such a good thing?
Socialism is oppressive to the common people of a nation. Period. You have created a false dichotomy between socialism and dictatorship/police state. In fact, socialist governments historically CONSIST of dictatorships and police states! A vote for Barack Husein 0bama is a vote for a radical socialist oppression. A vote against him is a vote for liberty and freedom.
As far as the violence and evil of which you speak: you have to have lived your life in a cave to assert that these things live anywhere but the liberal left. The left filters everything through emotion sans reason, which is why the left is constantly bitter and disgruntled at life in general (proven in clinical studies, BTW). How does the left handle competing ideas? Ask 0bama's friend, the domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and his even more radically left wife, they can tell you how to make bombs and which people or buildings to blow up. Violent protest generally lives in the liberal left, not the right.
I too pray for our country, that we might embrace righteousness and justice and truth once again, and I too pray for the survival of the church in America. For those prayers to be answered, the liberal church and the radical left have to be defeated and destroyed once and for all. Scripture tells me that this is probably not to be, as false gospels and false teachings pave the way to the Lord's return. Why do you think that no nation will come to the defense of Israel when they are attacked as Scripture foretells? Because socialists like Barack Hussein 0bama and the deceived masses that follow people like him will be too busy getting their ears tickled for our nation to do the right thing.
Regardless, I will keep standing up to the spirit of anti-Christ in my nation as long as I draw breath.
Can I get a witness?
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 8:57:38 PM
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I didn't see what happened with this guy in Wisconsin, but when I heard about it, I couldn't help but think of Howard Beale's speech in Network.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 9:05:56 PM
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ManimalX,
Hello, from across the aisle. To clear up any misunderstandings... I don't hate you, nor do I hate everything you stand for. I just disagree with you on many things, politically. Thankfully, we both are disciples of Christ. I'm a liberal. However, I am not ruled by emotion. I simply try to live out my principles each day the way I best see fit. You and I may even share some of the same principles. Yet we have different visions of how those principles should be lived out each day. In my opinion, communism is to the left what facism is to the right. Socialism is to the left what ultra-right wing politics are to the left. All four of the aforementioned political perspectives are scary to me. Socialism and ultra-right wing politics are less scary, but they are extremes to which most people in the states do not subscribe. Most Americans have a lot more in common than we are led to believe by the mainstream media. Most Americans have a lot to gain from politicians "reaching across the aisle". Yet, I too share your skepticism about all the time we are spending in the aisle. Can we spend so much time trying to get across that aisle that we are compromising our own values? It's a valid concern.
But do you seriously believe that Obama is the anti-Christ? For real? Do you really believe that those of us who plan to vote for Obama are voting against freedom and liberty? And are you implying that the horrendous dictators that we have seen throughout the twentieth century have all been socialist tyrannts? Really? Hilter? Pinochet? Milosevich? What about those Central American hit men who were backed by our government and slaughtered Christ-loving missionaries for being deemed "subversives" and Commies?
Lord, please save us from ourselves.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 9:13:25 PM
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But do you seriously believe that Obama is the anti-Christ?
I used to. Definitely an anti-Christ spirit; I'm not even sure there is to be an actual Anti-Christ person but a spirit, maybe a series of people...and Obama would fit that bill, IMO. (Any more on that would get us moved to Theology and give me a headache.)
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Do you really believe that those of us who plan to vote for Obama are voting against freedom and liberty?
Yes. Whether you know it or not.
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And are you implying that the horrendous dictators that we have seen throughout the twentieth century have all been socialist tyrannts? Really? Hilter? Pinochet? Milosevich? What about those Central American hit men who were backed by our government and slaughtered Christ-loving missionaries for being deemed "subversives" and Commies?
Socialism can take a lot of different forms - it is what it is at the heart of it. It seeks to elevate government above God and do away with our need for God...it's dangerous stuff. If you don't hear that in everything Obama says, I think you're just not listening.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 9:15:45 PM
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His_4_Ever
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ManimalX,
Hello, from across the aisle. To clear up any misunderstandings... I don't hate you, nor do I hate everything you stand for. I just disagree with you on many things, politically. Thankfully, we both are disciples of Christ. I'm a liberal. However, I am not ruled by emotion. I simply try to live out my principles each day the way I best see fit. You and I may even share some of the same principles. Yet we have different visions of how those principles should be lived out each day. In my opinion, communism is to the left what facism is to the right. Socialism is to the left what ultra-right wing politics are to the left. All four of the aforementioned political perspectives are scary to me. Socialism and ultra-right wing politics are less scary, but they are extremes to which most people in the states do not subscribe. Most Americans have a lot more in common than we are led to believe by the mainstream media. Most Americans have a lot to gain from politicians "reaching across the aisle". Yet, I too share your skepticism about all the time we are spending in the aisle. Can we spend so much time trying to get across that aisle that we are compromising our own values? It's a valid concern.
But do you seriously believe that Obama is the anti-Christ? For real? Do you really believe that those of us who plan to vote for Obama are voting against freedom and liberty? And are you implying that the horrendous dictators that we have seen throughout the twentieth century have all been socialist tyrannts? Really? Hilter? Pinochet? Milosevich? What about those Central American hit men who were backed by our government and slaughtered Christ-loving missionaries for being deemed "subversives" and Commies?
Lord, please save us from ourselves.
 Now can I get an AMEN? AMEN, my Brothers and Sisters.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 9:17:54 PM
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nomensrea
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csl7037... thanks for the reply, and I appreciate your civility. Well, if I just don't know that I'm voting against freedom and liberty, there's not much I can do about it. Unless you care to explain it to me. But, that's okay if you don't feel like it. I probably won't be convinced. I am curious, however, as to why you feel that Obama has the anti-Christ spirit. Is it because of his charm and the way he has won over so many people?
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 9:46:23 PM
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You're reading more into Evangel70's comment than is there. I don't believe he/she was advocating Socialism.
You are correct. I am certainly NOT advocating socialism. The fact that the radical right has been brainwashed into believing that ANY democrat has the power to dismantle 200+ years of capitalism and somehow discard the constitutional form of government would be amusing if it wasn't inciting the crazies to believe all the troubles of the world are caused by the Jews.....I mean the democrats.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/9/2008 10:05:04 PM
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Rockwall
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Now for the first time in the nation's history, there is a very real chance that the socialists, and by extension the communists too, will have total control over the country's Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government. Wielding this level of power they will be able to pass whatever legislation they see fit. So they will nationalize our industries; remember Maxine Water's statement on May 22, 2008 at the Congressional hearing on the energy crisis: "This liberal will be all about socializing... uh... uh... will be about basically taking over...and the government running all of your companies". She was not kidding. That is exactly what they have in mind. Incidentally, Rep. Maxine Waters was also a big supporter and beneficiary of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac whose unregulated lending practices and unchecked avarice and greed led to the collapse of the Housing industry, which devastated the Banking industry, as well the largest insurance carrier in the world, AIG, and plunged our economy into a deep recession.
Thanks for a great post and many do not foresee or understand that the liberals will become an oligarchy. They will control the Legislative and Executive branches of government, and after Barack appoints his judicial nominees, they will also control the Judicial branch also. Yes, the left will have control of the three branches of government! There will be no more checks and balances within our government.
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DESTROYED?!? So what should be done with those Christians who disagree with the agenda of the radical right? Shoot them outright or put them in radical right concentration camps until they see the light?