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RE: "I AM MAD!"better than I. - 10/10/2008 4:22:59 PM
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csl7037
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...which really begs the question, why don't you leave?
but I know you've been asked that before, so it's a rhetorical question (I don't need to hear your answer again).
No you are very wrong..I neve been asked this question before.
1st time indeed: by you.
And it does not surprise me commig from you because your postings directed to me before.
Thanks.
No, sorry, I remember now who I'm thinking of - another similar discussion a while back. So then it does beg the question...why live in a place you consider "a toilet"?
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RE: "I AM MAD!"better than I. - 10/10/2008 4:42:06 PM
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If you consider the USA as being a toilet, why did you come here? There are lots of other countries you might want to consider instead. For instance, none of the Islamic nations would condone the practices you are condemning.
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This kind of nationalism and pride and selfrighteousness mindset blinds people to see the unavoidble: that USA is a toilet also.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/10/2008 4:44:29 PM
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WormHeart
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With all due respect to you beloved Denmark, most of Europe is a toilet. The decline of Europe into the apathetic and immoral thing that it is is exactly I want the USA to avoid.
Well, you are most certainly entitled to your opinion.
However, that was not what you said. You said:
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In fact, socialist governments historically CONSIST of dictatorships and police states!
Love it or hate it, Europe consists neither of dictatorships or police states. We are democracies.
We don’t use methods the rest of the world consider torture. We don’t keep people locked up without a trial. We don’t invent new labels to prevent prisoners our basic rights. We don’t spy extensively upon our own citizens. We don’t build foreign camps where our rules don’t apply.
I know very well that Europe is seen as a bad example to you. But don’t claim we are dictatorships or police states.
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I don't want the USA to be a part of that kingdom.
If you believe that prophecy to concern Europe, then simply vote otherwise.
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Obama couldn’t poke true socialism with a long stick. He is to the right of most European political parties, and they in turn are not true socialist either. Perspective, please.
His obsession with the "global community" is frightening. And yes, 0bama's socialism is easily on par with European socialists, he just hides it better than most. It isn't hard to see though.
Really? In Denmark we have a pretty right wing government at the moment. Still, we pay a minimum of 38% of taxes. Medical treatments are free (free meaning already paid for through taxes). Schools are free. Libraries are free. Universities are free, although you have to pay for books. Every family with a child below the age of 10 receive a child-grant of 600$ every three months (pr. Child). Everyone above the age of 65 receive a pension from the state (small amount) monthly.
Gays can have a registered partnership, porn is legal, we have freedom of religion AND a state church. Prostitution is legal and prostitutes have the protection of the law.
We have currently an eight party system.
How is Obama socialist compared with that?
He is of course left of the centre, but to claim that:
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A vote for Barack Husein 0bama is a vote for a radical socialist oppression.
Is ludicrous. It would be like claiming a vote for Mccain was a vote for an imperialistic, oppressive fascist policestate. Sure he is to the right of Obama, but I hope you se the futility of those gross exaggerations.
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When in doubt, wave that flag. Wave it with every fibre in your body.
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I will, because that flag represents a nation founded on the rock of Christ and principles of God. It breaks my heart to see her sliding into the sewer.
Well, good.
I thought you were just using it as an emotional, nationalistic plea.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/10/2008 4:47:56 PM
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WormHeart
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You fail to grasp the concept that most Americans don't want socialism, don't want to be like Europeans (or any other nation or group of nations). We fought a war of independence to rid ourselves of the shackles of England. We have a right to our own destiny.
Oh no, I get that.
That is of course your own choice.
But ManimalX claimed that socialist states became dictatorships and police states. No matter what you think of Europe, you must agree that we are neither dictatorships nor policestates?
These kind of overblown rhetoric’s are just that… rethoric.
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RE: "I AM MAD!"better than I. - 10/10/2008 4:51:21 PM
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Lord have mercy!
Point being, we're FREE to be all those things.
I thought you didn’t LIKE the amount of freedom the populations of Europe has?
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RE: "I AM MAD!"better than I. - 10/10/2008 4:52:19 PM
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No, sorry, I remember now who I'm thinking of - another similar discussion a while back. So then it does beg the question...why live in a place you consider "a toilet"?
Lady, the world is a toilet in its darkness away from God.
I am a citizen of Heaven My Father is the Father of light...no earthly nationalist here.
The elementar knowlegde that we all came out of the world, from wickness and darkness that surround us and that we did born again for real, we are suppose to be salt and light because we do belong to God as we were Reedemed by Christ from a sure eternal destiny away from God.
Now...it seems that some in USA think they are above reproach and apart from the wickness that surround the world in darkness...not even Israel escaped the Lord's judgment by her many rebelions and going away from the Lord etc etc does US think it may go the way of desobedience and rebellion anyways and no consequences? I don't think so and anyways He is God.
Now..again:
Lord have mercy, the self righteousness and the nationalism excess that is going on in this nation and the attidudes of some.
Lord have mercy on me.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/10/2008 4:53:32 PM
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I know very well that Europe is seen as a bad example to you. But don’t claim we are dictatorships or police states.
Point taken.
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We don’t use methods the rest of the world consider torture. We don’t keep people locked up without a trial. We don’t invent new labels to prevent prisoners our basic rights. We don’t spy extensively upon our own citizens. We don’t build foreign camps where our rules don’t apply.
But we're safer for it and not on our way to Sharai Law (yet). Democracy and freedom have never meant "anything goes" - at least it shouldn't. It's the "anything goes" and "everyone is right" that invites outside ideals to water down your own standards. This is what we're fighting against here but I fear, as it is in Europe, it may be too late for us as well.
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RE: "I AM MAD!"better than I. - 10/10/2008 4:56:20 PM
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If you consider the USA as being a toilet, why did you come here? There are lots of other countries you might want to consider instead. For instance, none of the Islamic nations would condone the practices you are condemning.
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This kind of nationalism and pride and selfrighteousness mindset blinds people to see the unavoidble: that USA is a toilet also.
Read post #56
Since when US can call other countries toilets and not look for its own toilet messes and darkness?
Well..sure the freedoms Constitutions gives of free speech goes above what the Bible instructions command..sure.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/10/2008 5:05:45 PM
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But we're safer for it …
Well, that’s just it. Dictatorships and police states are actually pretty safe places to be, as long as you don’t cross the government. Every step taken through those means are a step in the direction of a police state, not away from it.
There where no mafia in Russia before. When the government rules with an iron fist, crime rates go down. When democracy and the rule of law is established, organised crime can take a hold.
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and not on our way to Sharai Law (yet). Democracy and freedom have never meant "anything goes" - at least it shouldn't. It's the "anything goes" and "everyone is right" that invites outside ideals to water down your own standards. This is what we're fighting against here but I fear, as it is in Europe, it may be too late for us as well.
Don’t write of Europe so soon.
We have a lot more staying power than you belive. Contrary to popular US belief, Europe has stood the test of time. Two world wars and countless national wars has ravaged us. The Ottomans, The Huns, The Romans, The Plague, The 100 years war, the protestant/catholic wars, ethnic cleansing etc.
There’s is hardly city in Europe that hasn’t been torched, plundered, bombed or cleansed.
My home town just celebrated our 800 years birthday.
And we’re still here.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/10/2008 5:20:48 PM
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Don’t write of Europe so soon.
We have a lot more staying power than you belive. Contrary to popular US belief, Europe has stood the test of time. Two world wars and countless national wars has ravaged us. The Ottomans, The Huns, The Romans, The Plague, The 100 years war, the protestant/catholic wars, ethnic cleansing etc.
There’s is hardly city in Europe that hasn’t been torched, plundered, bombed or cleansed.
My home town just celebrated our 800 years birthday.
And we’re still here.
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WormHeart
My undergrad degree is in Medieval history. I get it. The land is still there and remnants move from age to age but you've been through many different eras and distinct civilizations through the centuries. That's how the world works. We're just not ready to see the end of our era; I guess no civilization ever is. It's just agonizing to see it happening. When it does happen, I want it to be the hand of God (maybe what we're witnessing is) and not a result simply of our own stupidity. So even though I believe it very well may be God bringing our civilization to an end or into a different era, it's engrained in me (us) to fight the injustice and abuse we see God allowing to bring it about.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/10/2008 5:27:27 PM
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I know we radically disagree on what constitues good government, but why do you think that if the US turns even slightly to the left, your era would be over?
I mean, during the 20'ies and 30'ies you were much, much more rightwing with segregation and all. The idea that afro-americans were people with the same rights as others didn't weaken your nation - it strenghtened it.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/10/2008 6:29:30 PM
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I mean, during the 20'ies and 30'ies you were much, much more rightwing with segregation and all. The idea that afro-americans were people with the same rights as others didn't weaken your nation - it strenghtened it.
What does this even mean? Being "right-wing" has zip to do with segregation or keeping "afro-americans" from equal rights.
Who's running for election in Denmark?
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RE: "I AM MAD!"better than I. - 10/10/2008 7:06:10 PM
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Yeh, I read it. However, at least for a time, you're living on planet earth. Until your time is up on earth, you might want to find a place where you can exist without griping.
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If you consider the USA as being a toilet, why did you come here? There are lots of other countries you might want to consider instead. For instance, none of the Islamic nations would condone the practices you are condemning.
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This kind of nationalism and pride and selfrighteousness mindset blinds people to see the unavoidble: that USA is a toilet also.
Read post #56
Since when US can call other countries toilets and not look for its own toilet messes and darkness?
Well..sure the freedoms Constitutions gives of free speech goes above what the Bible instructions command..sure.
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The light of God surrounds me,
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RE: The Politics of Hate - 10/10/2008 7:25:05 PM
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I will, because that flag represents a nation founded on the rock of Christ and principles of God.
My bible says that it's the CHURCH that was founded on the rock of Jesus Christ and NOT the United States of America. Read the constitution and the Bill of Rights some time. The United States was NOT created to be a theocracy. In fact, the founding fathers fled England BECAUSE of the religious persecution prevalent in a state run church.
You need to take a non-revisionist history class or two.
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It blows my mind that you want so very badly to establish some sort of man made "Kingdom of God" on earth. Christians can't agree amongst themselves about theological issues. You've already stated that you want to DESTROY those who disagree with your extreme right theological agenda. Is that you're idea of "Heaven on earth"? Has the conservative agenda become your bible?
I support the conservative "agenda" because it is most closely in line with a biblical "agenda".
As for your incessant caterwauling about my use of the word "destroy", please give me a little credit. I am a Christian. I destroy opposition with truth and ideas, not physical violence. Here is a little refresher for you: "For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ, being ready to punish every disobedience, when your obedience is complete." - 2nd Corinthians 10:4-5
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The McCain/Palin campaign is already inciting chants of "terrorist" and "kill him" in their rallies and people are already mad and scared about the economy torpedoing it's way into a recession. These people are looking for hope and assurance that things will get better. Instead, John McCain and Sarah Palin are insinuating that Obama is a terrorist and dangerous for the country and all the problems of the world can be traced back to a 2-year democratic majority.
Because 0 is dangerous for the country and his party is responsible for most of the economic problems caused by the housing fiasco.
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Don't be surprised when some of those rally members attempt to take the law into their own hands and attempt to murder Obama or Ayers or Rev. Wright or Pelosi or even their democratic neighbor or co-worker, thinking they are protecting the country. Expect Klan rallies to pop up like fireflies and so-called "Christians" supporting their efforts when Obama wins the Presidency. Remember folks, you heard it here first.
Please. There are always a few whack-jobs in any party, but nothing big is going to happen if 0bama wins. On the other hand, I fully expect violence when the black candidate loses. It has already been threatened.
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RE: The Politics of Hate - 10/10/2008 7:32:44 PM
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This is most certainly NOT a nation founded on "Christ and the principals of God" - that's a very disturbing revisionist version of history. My kids are being taught that in their A Beka Christian school history curriculum and I don't like it. They're young - 2nd and 4th grade but I'm trying to go with what's in their texts which, IMO, is very superficial and biased but to also being to delve deeper into history with them so they start to understand the complexities and bigger picture. There were many other influences on our Constitution and the formation of our form of government...I think it's the best in the world but it's not a Bible-based government, and I'm glad it's not! Much of the fundamentals of freedom and responsibility coordinated into our system was very much in line with Biblical principals - but that's because, as with everything else, what the Bible says WORKS - whether you believe the Bible or not, principals of sowing and reaping, for example, work for all of us. Contrary to popular opinion, our founding fathers were not Evangelicals and really bore little resemblance to the "religious right" that claims to carry their banner today...they were Deists and philosophers educated in the very pagan Greek and Roman teachers. I guess we should be thankful to the Church adopting the founding fathers and the Constitution as their own - without it, I'm not sure if anyone would've been fighting for what is traditional and fundamental to our society this long. But, by the same token, maybe the adaptation of what is traditionally "American" to the point that some would distort it into being inherantly "Christian" or worse, "of God" is exactly what has caused the backlash in our society that now threatens our very foundation as a nation. It could go either way.
I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of history. Later tonight I will try to address this subject, but let me leave it for now with arguably THE founding document of the USA, the Mayflower Compact:
" In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken, for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together into a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620."
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RE: The Politics of Hate - 10/10/2008 9:01:32 PM
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This is most certainly NOT a nation founded on "Christ and the principals of God" - that's a very disturbing revisionist version of history. My kids are being taught that in their A Beka Christian school history curriculum and I don't like it. They're young - 2nd and 4th grade but I'm trying to go with what's in their texts which, IMO, is very superficial and biased but to also being to delve deeper into history with them so they start to understand the complexities and bigger picture. There were many other influences on our Constitution and the formation of our form of government...I think it's the best in the world but it's not a Bible-based government, and I'm glad it's not! Much of the fundamentals of freedom and responsibility coordinated into our system was very much in line with Biblical principals - but that's because, as with everything else, what the Bible says WORKS - whether you believe the Bible or not, principals of sowing and reaping, for example, work for all of us. Contrary to popular opinion, our founding fathers were not Evangelicals and really bore little resemblance to the "religious right" that claims to carry their banner today...they were Deists and philosophers educated in the very pagan Greek and Roman teachers. I guess we should be thankful to the Church adopting the founding fathers and the Constitution as their own - without it, I'm not sure if anyone would've been fighting for what is traditional and fundamental to our society this long. But, by the same token, maybe the adaptation of what is traditionally "American" to the point that some would distort it into being inherantly "Christian" or worse, "of God" is exactly what has caused the backlash in our society that now threatens our very foundation as a nation. It could go either way.
I respectfully disagree with your interpretation of history. Later tonight I will try to address this subject, but let me leave it for now with arguably THE founding document of the USA, the Mayflower Compact:
" In the name of God, Amen. We whose names are underwritten, the loyal subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord King James, by the Grace of God of Great Britain, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, etc.
Having undertaken, for the Glory of God and advancement of the Christian Faith and Honour of our King and Country, a Voyage to plant the First Colony in the Northern Parts of Virginia, do by these presents solemnly and mutually in the presence of God and one of another, Covenant and Combine ourselves together into a Civil Body Politic, for our better ordering and preservation and furtherance of the ends aforesaid; and by virtue hereof to enact, constitute and frame such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the general good of the Colony, unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In witness whereof we have hereunder subscribed our names at Cape Cod, the 11th of November, in the year of the reign of our Sovereign Lord King James, of England, France and Ireland the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini 1620."
Yikes! Now I think I'm arguing with both ends of the spectrum here. But the concept of God in the minds of Pilgrims in 1620 wasn't necessarily the same as the founding fathers in 1776. Granted they came to the New World in a desperate search for religious freedom having been opressed by the Church of England...but not everyone who came to America then and in the nearly 400 years since came for that reason. Most immigrants came for the opportunity to fail or succeed on their own merits and on their own hard work. The beauty of the system established in 1776 is that it rested in Biblical principals but drew from the lessons of civilizations gone and the mistakes of the past, the mistakes that the "New World" provided a very amazing opportunity to correct...and that's what they did. But to ascribe to the early settlers or the drafters of the Constitution an over-the-top sense of righteousness just does not wash with historical fact.
If Americans are prideful and stubborn (or if we were), and if we feel something superior to Europe, sorry, we do. We separated from Europe, fought for the right to stand on our own, and then forged a GREAT NATION in this wilderness. That took a special spirit and a special temperament that converged in this new land . . . something I fear we have lost as we've moved ever so gradually along the spectrum toward government-reliance and away from self-reliance and personal reponsibility.
Why do I think Obama's election will signal the end? Because he outrightly stands for government as the solution to all our problems. If Americans en mass elect this man, we are chosing government and rejecting God and our own responsibility. It's not going to happen overnight on November 3rd, it's been happening for approximately the last three decades. I just fear this will be the point of no return. "My fellow Americans" are chosing to have the government be responsible for them rather than them being responsible for the government and it breaks my heart.
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RE: The Politics of Hate - 10/10/2008 9:28:18 PM
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Yeh, I read it. However, at least for a time, you're living on planet earth. Until your time is up on earth, you might want to find a place where you can exist without griping.
You may are reading but not listen and/or understanding.
Yeh.. it may be a commom practice to some people to tell others to go away or desire or wish they go away..
Interesting, in this thread I have two suggestion to move.
In the Lord's timming I sure will travel more as I am into missions and mobilizations anyways, just waiting for the extra cash etc.
Thanks.
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/16/2008 1:25:10 PM
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Now for the first time in the nation's history, there is a very real chance that the socialists, and by extension the communists too, will have total control over the country's Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches of government. Wielding this level of power they will be able to pass whatever legislation they see fit. So they will nationalize our industries; remember Maxine Water's statement on May 22, 2008 at the Congressional hearing on the energy crisis: "This liberal will be all about socializing... uh... uh... will be about basically taking over...and the government running all of your companies". She was not kidding. That is exactly what they have in mind. Incidentally, Rep. Maxine Waters was also a big supporter and beneficiary of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac whose unregulated lending practices and unchecked avarice and greed led to the collapse of the Housing industry, which devastated the Banking industry, as well the largest insurance carrier in the world, AIG, and plunged our economy into a deep recession.
Thanks for a great post and many do not foresee or understand that the liberals will become an oligarchy. They will control the Legislative and Executive branches of government, and after Barack appoints his judicial nominees, they will also control the Judicial branch also. Yes, the left will have control of the three branches of government! There will be no more checks and balances within our government.
Does everybody NOT have a problem with this foreseeable outcome?
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/16/2008 2:59:00 PM
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Anyone check out the book of Acts lately? They didn't live in a communal manner, all together in one house, but shared their resources with each other depending on need. Now just exactly what is the definition of that? Could it be ah.....socialisim???
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RE: "I AM MAD!" - 10/16/2008 2:59:01 PM
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StephK
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Mr. Constitutional Law professor doesn't know his Constitution when he said that he would be POTUS for 8-10 years.
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