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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 8:32:17 AM
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Prairiehiker
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Would you marry a man/woman who is in church every time the church door opens, serves in various ministries, but when it's just the two of you, s/he won't engage you in any discussion about his faith, won't pray with you, won't study the bible with you?
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 8:56:23 AM
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twinkly
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Hmmm... I would question if he was just doing it to make a show for others? If we would not talk about it with me in private I really question his motives in public.
I dated someone just like this. In church every Sunday, Awana teacher, Sunday school teacher, donated money when it was needed, etc. But when we were alone, he would not talk about faith, or God, or anything. I would recommend books for him, he did not want to read them. He would be going through struggles and I would tell him to put it into God's hands, nope, he would hear nothing of it. Told him I would pray with him, nope. Asked if we could pray together or do a bible study together, etc, nope.
I truly believe he did the things he did for show, and not truly because he had a heart for God. Appearances were everything to him, and it was important to him that every one liked him. (of course I can say I was also witness to his VERY unchristian like behavior at times as well) I think he thought no one could ever have a bad thing to say about him if he did all this good stuff. kwim? Like "see what a good person I am?" I think he also did it to pretend like he was better than his exwife as she had called him out on some of his actions and he tried very hard to "act" like the kind of person who would not do those things.
So, in short, I would have to question why it was only public that he was on fire for God and not between us where it would matter too.
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 8:59:15 AM
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John_O
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Would you marry a Muppet?
Miss Piggy is the only female one I remember. And she'd be constantly beating the tar out of me. So I'd have to say no.
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 9:00:51 AM
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twinkly
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Miss Piggy is the only female one I remember. And she'd be constantly beating the tar out of me. So I'd have to say no.
LOL LOL!!! so true!! Her and her "haaayyyyyaaaaa!" karate chops!
I loved the muppets when they were on.
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 9:52:18 AM
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John_O - ... But if we hate and disparage those we don't agree with - or stereotype them - then we miss the whole point of the gospel.
Did I say anywhere that I hated them? No I did not. Because I do not. I hate what they stand for however. (But then we are supposed to hate sin)
Did I disparage them? If the truth (that they promote abortion) is disparaging then yes I did. If what I said was untruthful then show me how it was untruthful and I will gladly apologize.
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It is one thing to disagree with liberalism - or to say that you wouldn't marry someone who is liberal. We all have our preferences and no one wants to fight all the time. Nothing is wrong with that.
Which is all that I did.
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But it is another to claim Christ then totally condemn and stereotype people - simply because they have a different take than you on how to deal with social and political issues.
Where did I condemn anyone in this thread?
Likewise any stereotyping I did is supported by the facts of the situation. Someone who votes democrat supports the goals of the democrat party. "Abortion rights" is firmly entrenched as a core principle of the democrat party. To support the democrats is to support abortion. It may be a stereotype but it's a true one.
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To be saved isn't to vote republican (or democrat for that matter)
Where did I say that to be Christian you had to vote republican? God is above politics, but our political actions should line up with his word. (Thou shalt not murder)
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If a sizeable group of christian (and non-christian) democrats and independents (even if it is a very vocal minority) and republicans can come together on this issue - we can influence both parties and overturn it - even if we have to dismantle it piece by piece.
Name the last pro-life democrat that spoke at a national convention. To the best of my knowledge there hasn't been one for years. And that is the problem. The democrat party is too enslaved to the pro-abortion camp to be changed from within. Pro-life can only abandon it as pro-life has no influence in it.
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Just because you don't know about what people are doing because you've already written off everyone who is liberal as "immoral" and "taking pleasure in sin" and you won't associate with them - doesn't mean this isn't happening or that there aren't people who are just as committed to ending this.
Read again how I defined liberal in my posts above. I took pains to point out that I use the current definition (Pro-abortion, Pro-homosexual, anti-family, anti-religion (especially Christianity)). If someone is pro-abortion and pro-homosexual then they are taking pleasure in sin. God says "Thou shalt not" and they say "Fah on that, we are going to and we are going to promote it too!"
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And as we have seen from different allegations over the past few years in congress - immorality comes from both parties - republican and democrat. It is a matter of the heart.
True, but on the abortion issue at least, only the democrats have it codified into their plarform.
So I cannot marry a liberal.
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 9:59:11 AM
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Yes - I could date a politician. But it would be difficult to be under the microscope at election time. Also, politics tends to consume you - I don't think I'd care for that - unless he could really put a good hedge around his family and spousal time. I have a friend who is considering throwing his hat into the ring. I don't know what will happen. He has a heart for God's people and also for the people in the community he lives in which has a fair amount of poverty and immigrants - as well as a smaller group of wealthy individuals. It is good to get a birds-eye view of the life of a politician, without actually being part of it. I'm praying for him.
A good friend of mine was elected mayor here just recently. It's astonishing how busy the office keeps her.
So I'd have to say that at this point I would not marry a politician. Well, maybe at the local level but definitely not at the state or federal level. I moved here to stay here, not to go back to the city.
(And this will be my last political related post on this thread)
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 10:01:00 AM
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ORIGINAL: Prairiehiker
Would you marry a man/woman who is in church every time the church door opens, serves in various ministries, but when it's just the two of you, s/he won't engage you in any discussion about his faith, won't pray with you, won't study the bible with you?
Absolutely not. If they have no private relationship with Christ then their public life is just a show. We pour into our public life from the overflow of our private life.
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Psalms 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 10:47:48 AM
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ORIGINAL: Prairiehiker
Would you marry a man/woman who is in church every time the church door opens, serves in various ministries, but when it's just the two of you, s/he won't engage you in any discussion about his faith, won't pray with you, won't study the bible with you?
Absolutely not!
Faith in Christ is not about what things you do, but about having a relationship with Christ. Someone who is able separate their "religious" expression from the rest of their life would be someone who doesn't appear to understand that. I want to date and marry someone who understands that faith in Christ is about having a relationship with the living God, and whose actions reflect that relationship.
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 10:52:55 AM
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Would you marry a man/woman who is in church every time the church door opens, serves in various ministries, but when it's just the two of you, s/he won't engage you in any discussion about his faith, won't pray with you, won't study the bible with you?
Absolutely not!
Faith in Christ is not about what things you do, but about having a relationship with Christ. Someone who is able separate their "religious" expression from the rest of their life would be someone who doesn't appear to understand that. I want to date and marry someone who understands that faith in Christ is about having a relationship with the living God, and whose actions reflect that relationship.
I couldn't have said it better!
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Search me, Oh God, and know my heart
Try me, and know my anxieties;
And see if there is any wicked way in me, and
Lead me in the way everlasting Psalm 139:22-24
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 11:58:44 AM
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Faith in Christ is not about what things you do, but about having a relationship with Christ. Someone who is able separate their "religious" expression from the rest of their life would be someone who doesn't appear to understand that. I want to date and marry someone who understands that faith in Christ is about having a relationship with the living God, and whose actions reflect that relationship. Ditto.........
Would you marry a man/woman who tends to start thoughts(post), gets distracted, then an hour or so later picks up the conversation, where it stopped, without seeming to realized the conversation is no longer there?
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 2:42:01 PM
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skreyola
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Would you marry a Muppet?
Miss Piggy is the only female one I remember. And she'd be constantly beating the tar out of me. So I'd have to say no.
How is that different from the OH?
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/18/2008 3:09:19 PM
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I think this could go both ways....
If your relationship isn't built on sex, then you're probably pretty stable.
However, if YOU know that sex is something that would be important to you, but isn't to the other person, that's going to result in all sorts of problems. Sort of an unequally yoked thingy.
I think it's bad news.
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/19/2008 8:29:38 AM
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rgod
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ORIGINAL: rgod
John_O - ... But if we hate and disparage those we don't agree with - or stereotype them - then we miss the whole point of the gospel.
Did I say anywhere that I hated them? No I did not. Because I do not. I hate what they stand for however. (But then we are supposed to hate sin)
Did I disparage them? If the truth (that they promote abortion) is disparaging then yes I did. If what I said was untruthful then show me how it was untruthful and I will gladly apologize.
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It is one thing to disagree with liberalism - or to say that you wouldn't marry someone who is liberal. We all have our preferences and no one wants to fight all the time. Nothing is wrong with that.
Which is all that I did.
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But it is another to claim Christ then totally condemn and stereotype people - simply because they have a different take than you on how to deal with social and political issues.
Where did I condemn anyone in this thread?
Likewise any stereotyping I did is supported by the facts of the situation. Someone who votes democrat supports the goals of the democrat party. "Abortion rights" is firmly entrenched as a core principle of the democrat party. To support the democrats is to support abortion. It may be a stereotype but it's a true one.
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To be saved isn't to vote republican (or democrat for that matter)
Where did I say that to be Christian you had to vote republican? God is above politics, but our political actions should line up with his word. (Thou shalt not murder)
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If a sizeable group of christian (and non-christian) democrats and independents (even if it is a very vocal minority) and republicans can come together on this issue - we can influence both parties and overturn it - even if we have to dismantle it piece by piece.
Name the last pro-life democrat that spoke at a national convention. To the best of my knowledge there hasn't been one for years. And that is the problem. The democrat party is too enslaved to the pro-abortion camp to be changed from within. Pro-life can only abandon it as pro-life has no influence in it.
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Just because you don't know about what people are doing because you've already written off everyone who is liberal as "immoral" and "taking pleasure in sin" and you won't associate with them - doesn't mean this isn't happening or that there aren't people who are just as committed to ending this.
Read again how I defined liberal in my posts above. I took pains to point out that I use the current definition (Pro-abortion, Pro-homosexual, anti-family, anti-religion (especially Christianity)). If someone is pro-abortion and pro-homosexual then they are taking pleasure in sin. God says "Thou shalt not" and they say "Fah on that, we are going to and we are going to promote it too!"
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And as we have seen from different allegations over the past few years in congress - immorality comes from both parties - republican and democrat. It is a matter of the heart.
True, but on the abortion issue at least, only the democrats have it codified into their plarform.
So I cannot marry a liberal.
John_O - to keep this thread from going too much off topic (as brother OneJohn410 reminded us - thanks OneJohn!) - I'll respond to your questions and explain why I wrote what I did in a PM. I won't be home until late tonight - but will send you a PM either then or this weekend. (It has been a pretty busy season for me work-wise since I now have two jobs - so it will take me a bit longer to get in touch with you than it would normally.) Gotta go - I'm due at work in a 1/2 hour ... - Rgod
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RE: The "would you marry thread......." - 12/19/2008 10:37:25 AM
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Prairiehiker
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Would you marry someone who has an emotional baggage that she hasn't conquered yet? Let's say, someone has an abandonment issue from childhood, would that be a deal breaker?
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Search me, Oh God, and know my heart
Try me, and know my anxieties;
And see if there is any wicked way in me, and
Lead me in the way everlasting Psalm 139:22-24
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