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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/2/2009 1:11:59 PM
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babbred
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Speaking of Hawaii...I found this website where the author, a writer, claims she intereviewed K & J for an article. It wasn't pretty.  (Bear in mind that I can't vouch for this. All we have is the author's word. However, it does fit the general picture I've read about, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's true.)
I interviewed Jon and Kate Gosselin for a Valentine's Day story called 8 Love Tips from Jon & Kate. While on the phone with the couple, Kate yelled at Jon for interrupting her, said he wasn't very good at communicating and generally treated him like he was a misbehaving child. After his initial attempts at answering my questions garnered such a response, Jon kept quiet.
The publicist, who was also on the phone, recognized the interview was spiraling out of control and suggested Kate tell me about renewing their vows in Hawaii. Kate lost it. She yelled into the phone, "I'm so sick of talking about Hawaii. It was really nice, but it's over and we just keep re-hashing it." Dead. Silence.
The rest of the story basically describes how the interview imploded, with Kate ranting "This is stupid. I don't know why you're doing this story. We're not romantic or lovey. We're not that couple."
I'm speechless. 
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/2/2009 7:16:09 PM
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I am wondering if Kate is a little bi-polar, I am serious, she just is so uptight, it seems. Wait what am I talking about I am pretty uptight myself, without the anger though.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/3/2009 6:35:38 PM
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I couldn't believe that they got 2 dogs! I mean I think it is great for the kids, but she is such a clean freak. Maybe she is trying not to be so controlling.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/3/2009 10:33:24 PM
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Shanae2003
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I agree Hislittleone. I love Jon, Kate and their kids. I must admit from time to time they are rude to each other, but im pretty sure it gets frustrating sometimes having eight kids calling your name all at once with little help. I think if Jon helps out more then Kate wouldn't be as frustrated.
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Am I the only one who thinks Jon is like Kate except he's more quiet and passive aggressive about it?
I like watching the show. And I like Kate. She goes overboard sometimes but I like her quirkiness and outspokeness (sp?). She comes across as being sure of herself and determined to remain true to that no matter what. You gotta admire that.
I think I remember seeing people posting about how they don't like the fact that Jon and Kate don't have jobs other than this reality show. In fact, doing a reality show seems like quite a job to me. IMO they should get paid for it.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/3/2009 11:01:01 PM
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The newer season is where she seems entitled. Saying that her children deserve a home like they have is entitlement. What child no matter how many you have needs a 1.3 million dollar home.
I think Jon does what Jon is allowed to do by Kate. When they moved into the new home she told him (in a not nice way) to go into their bedroom and be the leader of that family and tell the kids why they couldn't come in their bedroom. Then she totally goes off on him and is talking about him mumbling under her breath to the cameras when he isn't there because he didn't use a coupon. The man can't win. If he can't go out and by something without getting chewed out by his wife because he didn't use a coupon he probably figures he better not try and step up and do some major decision making.
I have read that they have already got rid of the dogs. I guess will have to wait for more shows to see if they really did or not.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/3/2009 11:12:05 PM
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I saw the 'coupon' episode and 'hate to admit it...but I'm like that when it comes to buying things since we are a one family income. The only difference is that ....we're not on TV. I do give my hubby a hard time when going to the store - but then I do apologize all the time afterwards so I think that situation does happen in some or most couples. We may or we may not agree on how they run their family but it does work for them. I love watching the kids growing up and they are very happy children. I have one child and I do stress out most of the time and say dumb things and I can't imagine how raising 8 kids all at the same time will do.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/23/2009 6:27:28 PM
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I wonder about this family. I also get the impression that all is not well in their "paradise"
Jon (IMHO) looks like he would give anything to um.. go to the store and "forget" to come home. Don't get me wrong, he loves his family, but I think he's rethinking that keeping all six babies maybe wasn't the best idea.. I mean... one baby can stress a relationship/marriage.. but six.. then twins on top?? wow... I couldn't do it.. and I have twins! LOL
Kate on the other hand, wants all the control and the help but is not about to let others do things their way. It's her way or nothing. and then she complains. Noone can win under those circumstances.
It is nice to see though, that the kids are for the most part content. But..... there is editing and we only see what TLC wants us to see. Also makes me wonder how extended family can be towards how they raise their kids, keep their house, have their show etc...
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/23/2009 8:16:15 PM
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kohls356
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You can't tell by how the previews are but they are suppose to discuss the problems they are having on tonights episode.
What got me about the whole coupon thing was they just moved into that large million dollar home and she was complaining about him spending $50.00 and not using a coupon. If you have to worry or get upset over that then maybe that house wasn't for them.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/23/2009 10:01:18 PM
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What cracked me up was that I have never seen a coupon for light fixtures. Maybe it was a coupon for the store itself..... I don't really believe much that she says about money. For instance, she once said that she only buys milk if it is on sale. Here in PA, milk is regulated by the state and it doesn't go on sale.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/23/2009 11:04:41 PM
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At the end of the show Kate says she loves her job. She said she personally has the ideal job, Jon said he didn't think so. I don't think Jon is happy being home. I think he would like to have a job to go to. She needs to start thinking about the whole family instead of just what she likes. She said she thinks one of the great things is he gets to work at home but he doesn't. Kate loves being able to travel and has new clothes. She has come along way in that area. She said they can't go back. I think they most certainly could. If they didn't have a season 5 people would eventually forget about them. It would take time but they would be forgotten and they could live their lives and have their privacy. Maybe what Kate is afraid of is losing is all the free things she gets and traveling she gets to do and her house. She needs to really do some thinking and figure out if it is truly worth it for your husband to be so miserable.
I hope they come up with a plan where both are comfortable with what they are doing. Jon obviously is not happy but she says she is. How can she really be happy when her husband seemed totally miserable and even seemed close to tears at times to me.
Gosh she even had to take the marker from him and sign the silly wall first.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/24/2009 12:08:53 PM
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I don't know how Jon has put up with her for so long. She ALWAYS treats him like he's stupid and ALWAYS bosses him around....at least that is what's portrayed in all the half hour episodes.
The wife and I watched the season finale yesterday. Kate made a piece of artwork. Jon was very impressed with it and complimented her. Her reaction to that was terrible since she was her typical self when she told him to put it down.
Jon does seem very upset on the show. I think its mostly because of her. I mean who would be happy with her as a partner?
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/24/2009 12:56:06 PM
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At the end of the show Kate says she loves her job. She said she personally has the ideal job, Jon said he didn't think so. I don't think Jon is happy being home. I think he would like to have a job to go to. She needs to start thinking about the whole family instead of just what she likes. She said she thinks one of the great things is he gets to work at home but he doesn't. Kate loves being able to travel and has new clothes. She has come along way in that area. She said they can't go back. I think they most certainly could. If they didn't have a season 5 people would eventually forget about them. It would take time but they would be forgotten and they could live their lives and have their privacy.
I agree! It would take time, but people would forget.
Jon was gone a lot helping his mom because of her broken foot. I wonder if that had something to do with it. I wonder if when he took her to doctor's appointments or was at her house, he was being recognized and asked about the kids. Or I wonder if mom was advising him to re-start his career because he couldn't be on camera for the rest of his life.
By the previews I thought their marriage was in real trouble. I hope those 2 can work this out. I hope Kate really listens to Jon.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/24/2009 1:02:04 PM
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One of the best things about being a child of God (to me) is my Father's grace to fogive me when I act like a heel to someone. I've been married for going on 15 years, and we've been through some major life changes ourselves. I don't know what it's like to have 8 babies anymore than Kate knows what it's like to have her husband separate from the military a month before their second child is due. The reality is that we all have stuff. There isn't a woman on these boards who hasn't said something critical to her husband. Most of us think we're RIGHT when it comes to disagreements anyway.
I've read the entire thread here. What saddens me the most is how people have torn into this family b/c of what they HAVE and the things they DO. They did the same to the Duggars as well. I'm not particularly a Jon and Kate fan, but what I see is a young couple doing life together. Maybe they don't all get along perfectly. The bottom line is they're a family. Instead of bashing and criticizing these people for all they get wrong, maybe spending a little time on your face for them would be helpful.
I am seriously considering leaving CW b/c of all the self righteous gossip that seems to be flying around the boards lately. It's so sad.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/24/2009 1:23:00 PM
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I don't feel self-righteous at all. If they can't handle the stress then they should stop it. I feel about as sorry for them as I do for most Hollywood celebrities who complain about lack of privacy. I also don't feel sorry for them because they made poor life choices and now choose to broadcast them to thousands of people. Kate admits that she wanted more children after the twins and pressured John into having them. They chose to do the IVF thing with its risk of multiple babies. If that linked article above is correct, then Kate especially has indulged in all sorts of selfish behavior. They chose to become celebrities, so now they must deal with the scrutiny and the consequences.
And BTW, having "major life challenges" doesn't mean you have to end up like the Gosselyn's. Hubby and I have dealt with all kinds of major challenges and yet I can honestly say we've never had an argument and I certainly haven't treated him like Kate does John. Bad circumstances don't make you act badly; they merely bring out the character that was already within you.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/24/2009 1:43:07 PM
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babbred, I agree with your character statement somewhat.
I have behaved like Kate, I do not always handle stress well. As I have gotten older it has gotten better. My husband is awesome but Sunday is an example of a time when I "spoke harshly" when I should have chosen my words better. He loves me, knows that my words sometimes come out wrong and forgives me. If you had been "watching" me that day and life would have been edited as J&K's is I would look very bad. BTW, I asked him for forgiveness quickly, he forgave me and I praise God for giving me a hubby that extends grace quickly.
Also, my family doesn't like how I live my life either and I have no relationship with most of them. It has nothing to do with my character but all to do with my faith.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/24/2009 1:44:52 PM
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Graceygirl, I tend to stay away from threads that frustrate me. I come back and forth to this thread because I think that Kate is unfairly judged. Mostly, because I am a lot like her and as I have said over and over. I would not be edited well in a show. Thankfully, no one wants to watch my life on TV.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/24/2009 2:54:13 PM
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There were things that happened while Jon was at his mothers house. There was an article in People magazine talking about the issues they are having. Jon had his picture taken with a couple of college girls and that picture then was floating around saying he was cheating on Kate at college sorority parties etc. It was also rumored they were getting a divorce. Don't you just love those trash magazines like the Star.
That is what he means that he can't be just himself anymore. He has lost his identity, he is no longer Jon he is Jon and Kate plus 8. Something as simple as having his picture taken with some fans turns into him cheating on his wife and then they are getting a divorce. I think for him he might be realizing that the "fame" from the show just isn't worth it overall to his family. But Kate loves it and didn't seem to be too concerned with how Jon felt about it.\
I have noticed the older girls aren't in the show as much. They are at school. I wonder how they will do the show when they sextuplets are in school which they should be starting soon, next season if there is a season five. Will the shows just be about them going on vacations etc.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/24/2009 3:22:10 PM
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I wonder if it was the other way around and Jon was constantly putting Kate down or yelling at her like she does him if people would feel the same. How would people really feel if he was waving a receipt around yelling at her because she spent $50.00 and didn't use a coupon. I get the feeling that people would think Jon was abusive to Kate if he treated her the same way she treats him.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/25/2009 8:00:32 AM
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Graceygirl, I tend to stay away from threads that frustrate me. I come back and forth to this thread because I think that Kate is unfairly judged. Mostly, because I am a lot like her and as I have said over and over. I would not be edited well in a show. Thankfully, no one wants to watch my life on TV.
Exactly. Everybody wants to watch J & K, though, so they chose, of their own free will, to expose themselves to this kind of scrutiny by putting themselves on TV every week. It's like being President: you can't expect to be in the public eye and then ask the public to sit home and say nothing about you.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/25/2009 12:01:06 PM
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They chose to do the IVF thing with its risk of multiple babies. If that linked article above is correct, then Kate especially has indulged in all sorts of selfish behavior. They chose to become celebrities, so now they must deal with the scrutiny and the consequences.
Babbred, I think you hit on something with this comment. Selfishness. I may get flamed for saying this, but the whole IVF thing doesn't sit well morally with me. I realize some want children so very badly, but is this really what God wants? does he want woman to take these risks all for a child, when there are so many to adopt? I have two biological children so I don't know what it's like to not be able to have a child, but at the same time it seems so risky to put your body through so much. I also see a "you owe us" type of attitude with them.
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