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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/14/2009 4:27:08 PM
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stateofgrace
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Well, apparently the judge in the case today sent them back to arbitration and would not make a ruling either way. He told them to get it done through an arbitrator and whatever they decide had better be in the best interest of the kids. He also told them to cut it out with the press.
Wanna bet a dollar that they won't be able to stay away from the press and the press won't be able to stay away from them?
Actually, the judge ordered Jon to put $180,000 back and that Kate had to account for the funds that she has used (ie, what were those funds used for). So, Jon apparently was untruthful about the amount he had taken out of the account.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/14/2009 5:02:14 PM
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From everything that I have read - it is only Kate's attorney (hardly an unbiased source) that said that Jon has to put back $180,000. Every article I read that quoted the judge said that they both have to put back any money that they took. There's a big difference in those two statements.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/14/2009 5:20:40 PM
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I heard that TLC is dropping the entire show and there won't be a Kate Plus 8 or anything next season. With all the publicity she gained by doing the show don't you bet Kate will land some kind of talk show or something? She did the View recently.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/14/2009 7:25:46 PM
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stateofgrace
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From everything that I have read - it is only Kate's attorney (hardly an unbiased source) that said that Jon has to put back $180,000. Every article I read that quoted the judge said that they both have to put back any money that they took. There's a big difference in those two statements.
Every news story I've seen says that Jon has been ordered by the judge to return the money, and Kate has to provide an accounting for the money she used that she claimed was for family bills and expenses - not a small amount, at $55,000, and who knows if she'll be able to account for all of it to the judge's satisfaction (sources: Boston Herald, MSNBC, Associated Press, and so on). Even ET, who has been basically Jon's PR vehicle for the last few weeks, has video where Jon admits that he has been ordered to put back money into the account (although he is now saying $155,000...but a while back he was saying it was only like $25,000, so his story has not been straight). He also admits that he was found in contempt, and, once again, Kate has to provide an accounting for the funds she used. Except for the amount Jon has been ordered to return, this is basically what Kate's lawyer's statement said in his statement. So...there, it's straight from Jon's mouth now, so hopefully you will believe it.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/14/2009 10:22:13 PM
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Jon is just proving that he could care less about those kids being filmed and that it has nothing to do with anything other than TLC cutting him. He cut a deal with ET to film the birthday party and footage of him and his buddy fellow-super dad Michael Lohan hanging out with the kids.
All sour grapes...
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/14/2009 10:39:31 PM
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I'd be sour grapes too. Especially if my soon to be ex-wife where hoarding and hiding money.
Both of them need to grow up and think about their kids and not themselves.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/15/2009 3:20:38 PM
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Every news story I've seen says that Jon has been ordered by the judge to return the money, and Kate has to provide an accounting for the money she used that she claimed was for family bills and expenses - not a small amount, at $55,000, and who knows if she'll be able to account for all of it to the judge's satisfaction (sources: Boston Herald, MSNBC, Associated Press, and so on). Even ET, who has been basically Jon's PR vehicle for the last few weeks, has video where Jon admits that he has been ordered to put back money into the account (although he is now saying $155,000...but a while back he was saying it was only like $25,000, so his story has not been straight). He also admits that he was found in contempt, and, once again, Kate has to provide an accounting for the funds she used. Except for the amount Jon has been ordered to return, this is basically what Kate's lawyer's statement said in his statement. So...there, it's straight from Jon's mouth now, so hopefully you will believe it.
Maybe I didn't explain myself clearly, so I will try again. However, I do not appreciate the attitude. Every news story (and most of them are the AP one so they are the exact same, quote Kate's lawyer, NOT the judge. The lawyer - NOT the judge - is the one who lists the amount. It is was a news conference intended to portray HIS client in the better light, as any good lawyer should. The actual judge simply stated that BOTH PARTIES must return unaccounted for money. Jon has ALWAYS said that he has taken out money (up to $175,000) OVER the course of the year. That is not a change in his statement. Kate maintains but has been unable to prove that he took over $200,000 out in one weekend. I am not saying that Jon is in the right and Kate is in the wrong. I am saying that Kate has a proven history of lying, and her attorney has obviously twisted the statement in her favor.
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Jon is just proving that he could care less about those kids being filmed and that it has nothing to do with anything other than TLC cutting him. He cut a deal with ET to film the birthday party and footage of him and his buddy fellow-super dad Michael Lohan hanging out with the kids.
Once again - there is not proof of this and this is a half-truth, at the best. ET did provide a live stream from PUBLIC PROPERTY outside the house on the date of the twins b-day. Jon did come down and talk to them, like he often does to the paparazzi. They also did film him picking up a cake in NY - also on PUBLIC PROPERTY. This is no different than somebody tipping the paps off to where Kate is going to be when walking out and about in my dear town of Reading, PA. The story about ET paying Jon is from an unnamed source. There has been no proof of Jon accepting money to film the kids. His PR person has not confirmed or denied this.
As far as the Michael Lohan friendship......all I can say is ick.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/15/2009 4:54:04 PM
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The "unnamed" source was TMZ. Nasty papparazzi show but about the closest thing to "fair and balanced" reporting out there anymore...
Sheesh, you related to the man or something? Pardon me, but you seem to be taking this personal.
And what "history of lying" proof to you have of Kate? She might be over-bearing, snappy, and mean most of the time, but when did she become a liar, too?
I think I'm done with this thread. Gossip is gossip even if we don't know those involved personally.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/15/2009 4:58:15 PM
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And what "history of lying" proof to you have of Kate? She might be over-bearing, snappy, and mean most of the time, but when did she become a liar, too?
When she refused to give Jon access or at least the passwords to all the family bank accounts.
IMO, both need some major intervention.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/15/2009 6:11:44 PM
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Have you ever noticed how all many of these "reality" shows about marriage/family end in divorce? Of course, some thankfully survive and continue doing well like the Duggars. But then they're smart enough not to have cameras in their faces 24/7.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/15/2009 7:16:47 PM
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Have you ever noticed how all many of these "reality" shows about marriage/family end in divorce? Of course, some thankfully survive and continue doing well like the Duggars. But then they're smart enough not to have cameras in their faces 24/7.
I agree, I was watching the new episode of the new series of Little People Big World the other day and they mentioned the word divorce a lot in that episode. They didn't say they were gettin gone but the whole vibe in that episode felt as if something wasn't right.
I don't think the Duggars are headed for divorce but I do think they have the cameras in their face a lot more than is needed. I saw a video on youtube showing the before filming of the interveiw with the Today show and Jim Bob said that the interview was the 28th that week. They may not be in front of the camera but 28 interviews in one week is a lot of interviews. I would think they don't interview on the weekend especially Sundays so that is more than 5 a day.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/16/2009 11:41:46 AM
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I just saw this morning that TLC is suing Jon for breech of contract. The reason Jon ended the show may not have been for the right reasons, but obviously TLC is all about the money and NOT about caring for the families they are filming.
In a way, I hope some of the other families see this and don't renew with TLC.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/16/2009 12:06:52 PM
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I just saw this morning that TLC is suing Jon for breech of contract. The reason Jon ended the show may not have been for the right reasons, but obviously TLC is all about the money and NOT about caring for the families they are filming.
In a way, I hope some of the other families see this and don't renew with TLC.
So much for all that talk that Kate did about how TLC had told them that if the show started to be a bad thing for the kids that they could stop. Either she was lying or TLC.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/16/2009 1:11:13 PM
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Yeah, I remember Jon saying that if either parent thought it was harming the kids, they could stop the show (and that was part of the contract).
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/16/2009 4:36:28 PM
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And what "history of lying" proof to you have of Kate? She might be over-bearing, snappy, and mean most of the time, but when did she become a liar, too?
When she refused to give Jon access or at least the passwords to all the family bank accounts.
That is the first I've heard of that claim.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/16/2009 5:22:58 PM
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And what "history of lying" proof to you have of Kate? She might be over-bearing, snappy, and mean most of the time, but when did she become a liar, too?
When she refused to give Jon access or at least the passwords to all the family bank accounts.
That is the first I've heard of that claim.
Read the statement from Jon's lawyer regarding his removing money from the bank account. There is a link to it a few pages back.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/16/2009 6:43:17 PM
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I just saw this morning that TLC is suing Jon for breech of contract. The reason Jon ended the show may not have been for the right reasons, but obviously TLC is all about the money and NOT about caring for the families they are filming.
In a way, I hope some of the other families see this and don't renew with TLC.
Let the litigation begin!
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/17/2009 9:41:49 AM
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I just saw this morning that TLC is suing Jon for breech of contract. The reason Jon ended the show may not have been for the right reasons, but obviously TLC is all about the money and NOT about caring for the families they are filming.
In a way, I hope some of the other families see this and don't renew with TLC.
I thought TLC was suing John because of his appearances in other places without their permission since I'm assuming that is a part of their contract.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/17/2009 9:51:33 AM
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I just saw this morning that TLC is suing Jon for breech of contract. The reason Jon ended the show may not have been for the right reasons, but obviously TLC is all about the money and NOT about caring for the families they are filming.
In a way, I hope some of the other families see this and don't renew with TLC.
I thought TLC was suing John because of his appearances in other places without their permission since I'm assuming that is a part of their contract.
They listed a whole bunch of things they are suing for. But, I just wonder if they are nit-picking because they are mad he put a stop to the show, and the money TLC was making from it.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/17/2009 10:57:04 AM
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I'm sure TLC is mad and that's why in any business there's a contract and I'm sure the main thing that they will get Jon will be his appearances elsewhere. It's almost like if you're working at Target, you can't work part time at Walmart.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/17/2009 11:00:54 AM
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Yeah, but TLC totallly overstepped their bounds. They "requested" that Jon and Kate have a cooling off period and not talk to any press for a number of days. They are suing Jon for not observing that period. But Kate also talked to press and such during that time and they are not suing her.
I simply think TLC is trying to bully Jon into continuing the show with a big old law suit. And honestly, at this point, I'm ready to be done watching TLC period.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/17/2009 12:58:45 PM
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They're suing Jon because he's an overgrown baby who took his ball and went home when he didn't get his way. He asked to be out of his exclusivity contract (which is industry standard) because he wanted to shop his "Divorced Dads Club" show with fellow-winner daddies Michael Lohan and Kevin Federline. TLC passed on it. His contract says he's not allowed to go work for another network while working for them. So when they told him they weren't interested in the show idea, he threatened to stop filming because he would "decide it wasn't good for the kids then." When they didn't cave, he stopped the show.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/17/2009 1:31:43 PM
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Whatever happened TLC would be smarter to stay OUT of the mud throwing that is going on. Stepping into this whole mess could truly harm them, and I have to wonder if they thought about the costs.
Its pretty obvious the show isn't going to continue for sometime. They can't tell anyone that Jon at the end of that last season together wasn't having doubts as he publicized it on the last show. I don't think anyone had any doubt it would continue after Kate made her comments over his thoughts. That is just HOW their relationship worked for the most part.
I know I didn't see him going down the road he did with all his stupid behavior. TLC took a risk and lost. They need to step back and STAY out of it! They have more to risk than losing one show if this goes badly for them. Placing Jon and Kate aside for a moment? TLC was thinking of their bottom line only. They loved the ratings and the money they made from the drama. The couple both did DUMB things, said DUMB things, and fanned the flames. You hear about Kate doing her own show as well.
I think Jon is getting nailed because he mentioned his relationship with TLC isn't the best right now. If their relationship was that open and honest just a call from Jon to tell them to stay away for now? No signs and bad mouthing (which I'm sure is the cause of the lawsuit as well) would have never happened. They had to know they were dealing with loose cannons at this point. I can't be the only intelligent person that could have figured that out by myself! 
Walk slowing away, and wait for things to calm down. Instead they chose to throw gas on a fire. NOT smart from a business standpoint. NOT smart at all!
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 10/17/2009 2:59:20 PM
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Whether we agree with TLC or not, TLC was Jon's employer. I don't think they are the big bully, it's a business. Yes, both of them were talking to the press but Jon has done more bad damage on what he's been saying and how he's been in the public. I just think Jon is not a very smart person.
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