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When God "Boasts" About Creation.... - 6/12/2009 8:32:45 PM
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yzf-r1
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Note carefully what He boasts about (similar statements are included many times in the prophets)
Zechariah 12
This is the word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit of man within him, declares: "I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves.
Btw, we can clearly see how God is preparing the "rock" of Israel to draw the entire world into war, but, anyway, the items in bold are three profound mysteries of science:
1. "Stretches out the heavens": the supernatural and instantaneous hyper inflation of the cosmos, resulting in distortion of space-time that has boggled the mind of not a few great physicists.
2. "Lays the foundation of the earth": once thought to be simple, we now know the layered structure of the earth's interior is complex and fantastically designed, with a spinning molten core that generates magnetic fields shielding the earth from deadly solar radiation, and tectonic plates which facilitiate sudden topographic changes, as previewed in Revelation, not over "millions of years" as embraced by pagans down through the centuries.
3. "Forms the spirit of man within him": the mystery of conception, the beginning of life, the beginning of an eternal soul, another fiercely contested issue between those who recognize the sanctity of life and those who consider it disposable, a product of "goo to you" evolution.
How great is our God?
In one simple statement, the great mysteries, known from the beginning by the Creator, are reiterated to the prophet, who had no knowledge of the wonder of any of it, and yet he worshipped God in humble reverence and fear. Where is that in 2009? Instead we have these worldly "Christians" running around trying to harmonize human speculations/philosophies with the the Word of the Eternal, the Almighty. Tragic. Indeed, "God knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile", and anyone who loves the world and embraces it's flawed, pagan philosophies cannot love God, it's just that simple.
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RE: When God "Boasts" About Creation.... - 6/16/2009 10:34:12 AM
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GHitch
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Good stuff I agree.
But let's not throw out the baby with the bath water.
A lot of sincere Christians simply have honest questions, not on what God did, but how.
Given that some small domains of science (anything related to NDE especially) contradicts what they are taught of the bible, they simply want to know the truth. Not whether the bible is true, but whether some of the interpretations of it they were taught are true.
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RE: When God "Boasts" About Creation.... - 6/16/2009 12:25:18 PM
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parkerbrother
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quote:
1. "Stretches out the heavens": the supernatural and instantaneous hyper inflation of the cosmos, resulting in distortion of space-time that has boggled the mind of not a few great physicists.
2. "Lays the foundation of the earth": once thought to be simple, we now know the layered structure of the earth's interior is complex and fantastically designed, with a spinning molten core that generates magnetic fields shielding the earth from deadly solar radiation, and tectonic plates which facilitiate sudden topographic changes, as previewed in Revelation, not over "millions of years" as embraced by pagans down through the centuries.
3. "Forms the spirit of man within him": the mystery of conception, the beginning of life, the beginning of an eternal soul, another fiercely contested issue between those who recognize the sanctity of life and those who consider it disposable, a product of "goo to you" evolution.
and after all that he goes and has some guy live in a giant fish belly.
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RE: When God "Boasts" About Creation.... - 6/17/2009 11:03:34 AM
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Lapidoth
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quote:
ORIGINAL: yzf-r1
Note carefully what He boasts about (similar statements are included many times in the prophets)
Zechariah 12
This is the word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit of man within him, declares: "I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves.
Btw, we can clearly see how God is preparing the "rock" of Israel to draw the entire world into war, but, anyway, the items in bold are three profound mysteries of science:
1. "Stretches out the heavens": the supernatural and instantaneous hyper inflation of the cosmos, resulting in distortion of space-time that has boggled the mind of not a few great physicists.
2. "Lays the foundation of the earth": once thought to be simple, we now know the layered structure of the earth's interior is complex and fantastically designed, with a spinning molten core that generates magnetic fields shielding the earth from deadly solar radiation, and tectonic plates which facilitiate sudden topographic changes, as previewed in Revelation, not over "millions of years" as embraced by pagans down through the centuries.
3. "Forms the spirit of man within him": the mystery of conception, the beginning of life, the beginning of an eternal soul, another fiercely contested issue between those who recognize the sanctity of life and those who consider it disposable, a product of "goo to you" evolution.
How great is our God?
In one simple statement, the great mysteries, known from the beginning by the Creator, are reiterated to the prophet, who had no knowledge of the wonder of any of it, and yet he worshipped God in humble reverence and fear. Where is that in 2009? Instead we have these worldly "Christians" running around trying to harmonize human speculations/philosophies with the the Word of the Eternal, the Almighty. Tragic. Indeed, "God knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile", and anyone who loves the world and embraces it's flawed, pagan philosophies cannot love God, it's just that simple.
Most every evening I gaze into the heavens and am just as
awe struck at the age of sixty as I was at six at the awesome
God who flung the stars into position, numbered and named each
and every one.
At the age of six, just amazed at the grandeur, at the age of
sixty finding all my searches to confirm what I just "saw" early on.
God is Great, and greatly to be praised!
And for the fish comment?
Spending 3 nights and days in a fish isn't exactly "living"
in the belly of a fish. But it definitely had it's purpose.
Jesus gave one and only one sign to the scoffers.
As Jonah was 3 nights and days in the fish, so the Son of
Man will be 3 nights and days in the earth.
Does Jesus "live" in the earth?
LOL
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Why does He keep quoting Torah? Doesn't He know He's about to abolish it?
http://www.tedpearce.com/Videos/TheForgottenpeople.html
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RE: When God "Boasts" About Creation.... - 6/24/2009 8:10:55 PM
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oldbrit
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quote:
ORIGINAL: yzf-r1
The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the spirit of man within him
It's great poetry - and fully consistent with the broad scientific consensus on the origins of the universe, the earth, and human life. (Incidentally I'm not aware of any evidence for a close correlation between attitudes to the sanctity of life and to evolution: it seems likely that there are other, much more significant factors.)
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