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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 4:51:52 PM   
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Since we have learned the pagan origin of Dec 25th, we have ceased observing this day. I have talked to Pastors who have said the day has been christianized from the pagans? Huh? Only God can Christianize or bless, or make Holy a day. We mortals seem to think we can do the same thing... So as we are not sure of the date (sometime in Autumn), and this day is not commanded, it is a tradition of man..and Jesus covered that when He addressed it as hypocrisy when we follow the traditions of man, and follow not my Commandments in Matthew 15. Also refer to Jeremiah chapter 10

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I totally agree with cornergas and voted no on the poll. And I guess that as Jesus came at the Feast of Tabernacles, dh and I feel we'd do better to celebrate that instead.

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 4:54:35 PM   
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I think it's cool that in threads like this, the legalists and the free both have the grace to say our opinions. Thumbs up!

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 4:56:59 PM   
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I think it's cool that in threads like this, the legalists and the free both have the grace to say our opinions. Thumbs up!


So who on this thread is a legalist then???

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 4:58:10 PM   
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PC means it depends who you want to worship...it you want to worship satan..December 25, easter, halloween are the way to go..right on..you got it made..if you want to worship Jesus and follow His commandments, then maybe we should follow the narrow gate to salvation and follow God's chosen days!

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 4:59:45 PM   
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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 5:02:12 PM   
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PC means it depends who you want to worship...it you want to worship satan..December 25....

You are way out of line and against scripture to judge the true Master's servants that honor Him on any given day. And to attribute the worship and adoration offered to Him to be worship of Satan is to get awfully close to the sort of thing Jesus condemned as blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 5:06:49 PM   
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I think it's cool that in threads like this, the legalists and the free both have the grace to say our opinions. Thumbs up!


Biblically speaking, I believe that the legalists were the ones who followed a set of man-made rules and traditions, making them of equal importance to the commands of God.

So by that definition, it would not be the ones who don't celebrate Christmas who are the legalists, would it. Seeing that Christmas is a pagan, man-made tradition, and that in Jeremiah it says that decorating trees is an abomination to God, I am glad that I am 'free' to ditch Christmas and celebrate the times of year that God gave to remind us of when His Son was born, and which remind us of His plan of redemption. I don't know as much as I ought to know about these feasts, being rather new to the idea of keeping them, but I'm definitely as 'free' as anyone else on this thread, if I am one of the 'legalists' you were referring to.

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 5:11:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Eutychus

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ORIGINAL: cornergas

PC means it depends who you want to worship...it you want to worship satan..December 25....

You are way out of line and against scripture to judge the true Master's servants that honor Him on any given day. And to attribute the worship and adoration offered to Him to be worship of Satan is to get awfully close to the sort of thing Jesus condemned as blaspheming the Holy Spirit.



Agreeing with Euty. That was way way out of line and an insult to the Body of Christ. If you, cornergas, don't believe in celebrating Christmas, then don't celebrate. But to put down those who do and then to say that we worship satan is blasphemous and a lie,which satan is the father of, btw. Don't do that cornergas, it is not a righteous act but very unwise. Let each be persuaded in his own mind, says the Word. How we honor God by giving gifts to the poor even more because we do this all throughout the year being Christians and all; by setting aside a time for special prayer of thanks for bringing us through this year in one piece,hallelujah and focusing on the goodness of God's gift to mankind is something that God will not turn His head, of a truth. By inviting in the lost to sup with us and showing them that we care about them 365 days of the year and talking to them about the Nativity Story is God honoring and God glorifying, not the opposite. So please don't try to be God's spokesman. HE is doing a fine job all by Himself.

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 5:14:02 PM   
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We do and the kids make a birthday cake for Jesus.

We don't do Santa though.


No Santa for me either.


We don't do Santa either.
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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 5:15:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SuspenseWriter

I think it's cool that in threads like this, the legalists and the free both have the grace to say our opinions. Thumbs up!


Biblically speaking, I believe that the legalists were the ones who followed a set of man-made rules and traditions, making them of equal importance to the commands of God.

So by that definition, it would not be the ones who don't celebrate Christmas who are the legalists, would it. Seeing that Christmas is a pagan, man-made tradition, and that in Jeremiah it says that decorating trees is an abomination to God, I am glad that I am 'free' to ditch Christmas and celebrate the times of year that God gave to remind us of when His Son was born, and which remind us of His plan of redemption. I don't know as much as I ought to know about these feasts, being rather new to the idea of keeping them, but I'm definitely as 'free' as anyone else on this thread, if I am one of the 'legalists' you were referring to.

Christmas is pagan to the pagans. Jeremiah says it's wrong to carve trees into idols.
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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 5:17:31 PM   
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God's chosen days!



God's chosen days of worship: 365 days and repeat.
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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 5:21:00 PM   
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Biblically speaking, I believe that the legalists...

Were the ones that steadfastly kept the exacting letter of the law but complete scorned the spirit of the law in the guise of being pious and righteous above all others.

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 5:22:57 PM   
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We do like Jesus did - celbrate Chanukkah.

I see no scripture in the gospels that HE ever celebrated christmas.

BTW, did God decree that feast of dedication, or did man?
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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 5:27:53 PM   
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We do like Jesus did - celbrate Chanukkah.

I see no scripture in the gospels that HE ever celebrated christmas.

BTW, did God decree that feast of dedication, or did man?

Other than a brief note about the particular time, I'm not sure it is clear that Jesus celebrated Chanukkah. But if He did, as your question intimates, He certainly wasn't stuck on celebrating a limited set of observances. And as the only One worthy of our complete devotion and worship, the risen Lord and the heavenly Father very likely welcomes our celebration of the Incarnation.

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 5:46:02 PM   
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Yeah - sort of.

None in my family know the Lord as their savior, so it's kind of trying. Yes, we do the gift swap thing, but when it's not about Him, it's not the same .

And I don't normally attend service on Christmas and Easter. Those who attend for those 2 days are a stumblingblock to me. Kind of like the American flags. Just leave them in the closet, where they were on 09/10/01, since it's better than laying on the roadside as they ended up 4-5 months ;ater when they fell off.

I'm a 'fan' of Rom 14 5. The Spirit within [me] doesn't watch the calendar (that I'm aware of...)(or the news).



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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 6:10:46 PM   
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Biblically speaking, I believe that the legalists...

Were the ones that steadfastly kept the exacting letter of the law but complete scorned the spirit of the law in the guise of being pious and righteous above all others.


Actually no. They were the ones who added a 'protective hedge' of man-made rules around God's Law, in order to stop people from accidentally breaking any of God's laws, and they put this yoke of man-made laws on the people, condemning anyone who did not keep them.

This is why Jesus called them hypocrites. He said they honoured God with their lips but their hearts were far from Him because they laid aside the commandments of God, and taught as doctrines the traditions of men.

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 6:13:53 PM   
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...Seeing that Christmas is a pagan, man-made tradition,...



I'm no scholar, but I don't think that pagans worshiped Christ or celebrated his birth.

And what is wrong (meaning sinful) with man-made traditions?

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 6:15:50 PM   
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We do like Jesus did - celbrate Chanukkah.

I see no scripture in the gospels that HE ever celebrated christmas.

BTW, did God decree that feast of dedication, or did man?

Other than a brief note about the particular time, I'm not sure it is clear that Jesus celebrated Chanukkah. But if He did, as your question intimates, He certainly wasn't stuck on celebrating a limited set of observances. And as the only One worthy of our complete devotion and worship, the risen Lord and the heavenly Father very likely welcomes our celebration of the Incarnation.


Indeed. And He's already given us the dates to celebrate it - and that wouldn't be Christmas. And if He is the only One worthy of our complete devotion and worship, then shouldn't we celebrate His Incarnation on the day that has been given to us by God, or on the pagan festival which man chose to Christianize?

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 6:19:48 PM   
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...Seeing that Christmas is a pagan, man-made tradition,...



I'm no scholar, but I don't think that pagans worshiped Christ or celebrated his birth.

And what is wrong (meaning sinful) with man-made traditions?


I don't mind if people want to celebrate Christmas - that is between them and God and we are all accountable to Him for the decisions we make, and the things we choose to do. But I do mind people insinuating that people who celebrate GOD GIVEN festivals (instead of man-made traditions) are legalists, when us so-called legalists are trying to obey God from the heart, and believe that His laws are better than anything we could come up with ourselves.

The other thing that Jesus said about those who followed man-made traditions and laid aside the commandments of God, was that they 'worshipped God in vain'. Who here wants to be told that they worshipped God in vain, when it comes to the time that we all have to stand before Him and give an account?

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 6:44:32 PM   
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No Corne..Jeremiah 10 says follow not the way of the heathens, and goes on to illustrate how they celebrate Dec 25th the winter solstice..by bringing in an evergreen tree and decorating it...hmmmm that was 600 BC..and we are still following these heathen ways.....and we use the excuse we are celebrating it to Jesus...well if celebrating this pagan day does it for you..knock yourself out with it..we all have free will..

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 7:08:38 PM   
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No Corne..Jeremiah 10 says follow not the way of the heathens, and goes on to illustrate how they celebrate Dec 25th the winter solstice..\

Know the truth and it will set you free...


Well conrergas I hate to break this to ya, but the truth is that the winter soltice in on December 21, not the 25.

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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 7:13:48 PM   
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It's about idols. See v. 5, 11, 14.

The "heathen ways" is idol worship.

Christians are not worshipping false gods on Dec. 25.
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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 7:15:44 PM   
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The other thing that Jesus said about those who followed man-made traditions and laid aside the commandments of God, was that they 'worshipped God in vain'. Who here wants to be told that they worshipped God in vain, when it comes to the time that we all have to stand before Him and give an account?

Do you know of any scripture that addresses "man made traditions" that does not specify false gods in the context?
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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 7:44:15 PM   
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I absolutely celebrate the birth of my Savior big time. When asked why I celebrate, I have a reason for the hope that is in me.
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RE: Do you celebrate Christmas? - 11/2/2009 7:59:42 PM   
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Brilliant bit of information RCJ..but they celebrated the solstice on the 25th of December..just like here..only our world, which is ruled by satan polishes it up and shamefully names it after our Lord and Saviour. to give it some religious credibility.


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