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Angry With God, WHY? - 11/10/2009 2:07:57 PM
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JosephineKerr
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I have found through my witnessing the Gospel of Jesus Christ some very interesting things. I found that many people had experienced being angry with God, and some are still angry with God, by their confession. Some said that "My mom had died", "My child had died", "My wife divorced me", "I was hurt in Church" and they walked away from Jesus, family, jobs, and ministry. Some are even living on the streets today. Stuck and don't know it! What I noticed was that each ones' prayer request was about everything but moving pass the anger. Then when I seen them again not only were their life the same, but their prayer request was the same. No progress. The Good news is that I let them know that their reason for being angry at God was real, and after allowing them to vent their anger, I told them that Jesus was ready to help if they asked. And he would show them how to move forward. One foot at a time! Jesus said let who will, let them come. Were you ever angry with God, and how did the Lord help? Are you angry with God and Why?
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/10/2009 4:19:43 PM
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Many of God's children have done a disservice to their new brothers and sisters in Christ by perpetuating the lie that nothing bad will happen to them again as long as they're a Christian. Or if your faith was stronger, you'd never experience struggles, etc. It's like a bait and switch. The Bible gives no assurance of this...in fact, we read quite the opposite. The phrase, "angry at God" just doesn't set well with me...we don't get our way, so we anthropomorphize (putting human conditions on a Holy God) God and convince ourselves it's "okay" to be angry at Him cause He can take it. Where does God's holiness factor in with our arrogant anger because "we" don't get what we think is fair or right in "our" eyes. I get the struggles, I get the pain and suffering...been there. I don't get the double-mindedness. God is either good... or He isn't. I say He is. Living in community with other believers is one way that God has provided a way to ease some of our pain. Putting others in our lives to care for us during the tougher times, etc.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/11/2009 3:31:46 PM
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Thanks to all of you for your encouraging replies!
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/11/2009 3:42:05 PM
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ORIGINAL: JosephineKerr Were you ever angry with God, and how did the Lord help? Are you angry with God and Why? No, I have never been angry with God. Does not mean that I got everything I ask for or wanted, I haven't; but I trust God for whatever happens in my life. I do believe and trusr in this verse; (Rom 8:28) And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Thanks RC edtied for spelling
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/11/2009 6:15:40 PM
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Job said "the Lord gives and the Lord takes away" but if you have read that book, you know good and well who did all the taking away. If People blame God for every mishap,and every tragedy, they are guessing incorrectly. no wonder they are angry with Him. We serve God, and it isn't the other way around. He is the healer of the broken heart, not the causer.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/11/2009 10:43:56 PM
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Be not angry with the Lord. It is the wicked one that deceives us.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/11/2009 10:57:27 PM
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Something i found written by a man on myspace. I believe this will help as it has helped me! GOD bless Is It Alright To Be Angry With God? Category: Religion and Philosophy I remember as a budding adolescent – a child evolving into a man – beating on the chest of my dad. I honestly don't remember why I was upset, but I do recall the tears streaming down my face, due to the anger and frustration I could not seem to control. I also remember him grabbing my wrists and overpowering my blows, just before I gave into a desperate embrace. The lesson I learned that day did not make itself known until I became an adult. With children of my own, it is my hope they will never be angry with me, but I'm wise enough to know that is not very realistic. So instead, my desire is, they will learn to communicate when they are mad at me. Many times I can see it on their face, or in their body language, but I would much rather hear it from their broken heart. God has the same desire with us. He knows when we are mad at Him, but He would rather we choose to discuss it with Him than pretend everything is alright. I am reminded of the scripture in Isaiah 1:18, "Come now, let us reason together…" Even in our rebellion against Him – and yes, anger is a form of rebellion – He wants us to boldly approach His throne and beat on His chest, venting our anger and frustration. After He takes a hold of us, and embraces us in our state of desperation, He then says, "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson they shall be like wool." We need to understand, our anger toward God is nothing more than a lack of understanding; a lack of understanding His will. This is why He calls to us, "Come now…" – he wants to show us His will. If there is anyone in our life with whom we can show our anger, it is God. God is defined in 1 John 4:8 as love. God does not only possess the ability to love, but He is indeed the very essence of love. I truly wish more people would answer the call of God and come to Him with all their frustrations and anger. They would not only find a conduit to voice their lack of understanding, but they would also find a Father who loves them deeply and wants nothing more than to hold them in His arms of love.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/11/2009 11:07:40 PM
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sorry ment to answer your question as well... Yes I have been angry with GOD in the past 5 years i have endured a house fire sick child in nicu divorce with no family except the current one from the marriage, loss of business and then fired from business from work accident which left me in surgery, hurt then rebroke wrist ( no medical insurance). Couldnt get workmans comp since Employer didnt carry it. So nw have to have three jobs and g to school full time to support kids since i recieve no childsupport. car has broke down at least 10 times in past month and no money to cover for it. trust me i have many reasons to be angry, yet I have learned that its better to trust GOD than fault him. He never promised it would be easy yet he DID promise to be there through it. Even though the above looks discouraging, what i didnt mention is how i overcame those things. The divorce ( husband left with old girlfriend) i have become dependant and support three children while educating myself which my school money has saved me many of times. I wouldnt have went back otherwise. I opened back up my business cheaper rent. I have the most amazing fiance who my kids love and treats me like a queen. we all have hard days and trials to face yet if we didnt how could we grow
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/12/2009 11:07:12 AM
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Thank you for your testimony it is moving. I am looking for even more testimonies to come!!! be bless
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/13/2009 11:13:19 AM
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a lot of people are angry with god because they are being taught that life in faith of christ is perfect. nowhere in the word is this stated. it actually states the oppisite. if people were taught the truth of the lord jesus christ we would not see all the things that we see now. unfortunately they blaim god rather than the liar that told them such things.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/13/2009 11:36:27 AM
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Great topic! Let me see. I have been angry at God not the majority of my christian life but a good chunk of it. Recall David was angry at the Lord after that guy died when they were trying to bring the ark on a cart. Yeah so that is usually the principle, we get angry at God when we are the one's who are ont willing to do what is right by His definition. So then you realize that hey, He is actually in control of everything, by either direct action or allowance so then why not be angry at Him for your abusive family life, or anything that you lack? I was angry at God when I found strong evidence of sexual indiscretion in my family. Then I was angry at God because He did not force those whom I loved to repent and so continue the bonds of family once they knew something was wrong. Somebody up hither though, assuming that you are serving the Lord, sounds like a Job experience. The book of Job ends very well. Job sees God so His intimacy with God jumps orders of magnitude and he is blessed with everything he needs to then walk out in that ministry with a powerful testimony. No man can contend with the Lord, but He is gracious and kind. If He allows trials is because in His wisdom He knows what is needed to accomplish the goal of redeeming a people for His very own possession. Lord I pray for this one that you might turn back the enemy from their life. If there be an issue a point of contention between you and them reveal it. If there be none save the refining of battle with the enemy, or whatever your reasons for allowing this may be, I stand in the Name of Jesus to speak peace to the waters. Moses did also say that if you destroyed this people all the nations would say 'He has lead them into the wilderness to destroy them.' But You have not lead us through the sea to make a mockery of us, or spectacle, or to humiliate us. Strengthen this one now Lord by words unexpected and a friend unsought who sees the needs and binds up the wounds. Glory to you in the highest! Above all wisdom of men you are God. From everlasting to everlasting the same, we worship You and You only shall we serve.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/13/2009 12:10:38 PM
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ORIGINAL: doinkdom Many of God's children have done a disservice to their new brothers and sisters in Christ by perpetuating the lie that nothing bad will happen to them again as long as they're a Christian. Or if your faith was stronger, you'd never experience struggles, etc. It's like a bait and switch. The Bible gives no assurance of this...in fact, we read quite the opposite. The phrase, "angry at God" just doesn't set well with me...we don't get our way, so we anthropomorphize (putting human conditions on a Holy God) God and convince ourselves it's "okay" to be angry at Him cause He can take it. Where does God's holiness factor in with our arrogant anger because "we" don't get what we think is fair or right in "our" eyes. I get the struggles, I get the pain and suffering...been there. I don't get the double-mindedness. God is either good... or He isn't. I say He is. Living in community with other believers is one way that God has provided a way to ease some of our pain. Putting others in our lives to care for us during the tougher times, etc. Ditto. Suffering and pain and death are caused by sin...death entered the world God created through disobedience (sin) and continues on. People should rather ask.."Why has God in His mercy allowed my life and what can I do to know Him? Further to your 'observation', a good reason peole do not 'move past their anger', is because they would have to acknowledge their creator and perhaps even do something about that acknowledgement. If everything is going well in a person's life (and they are not a believer), do they ever stop and say "Oh, I just love God because my life is so great." Well of course not. So, a thinking person must then ask "Why do people who do not believe (and even some believers) say they are angry 'at God' when things do not go their way?' quote:
The Good news is that I let them know that their reason for being angry at God was real No, their reason is not 'real'. Their reason is sinful, selfish and gives evidence of no knowledge of the One they say they are angry at.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/13/2009 8:09:15 PM
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I remember the first time I heard someone say they were angry with God. It was in a Sunday School class and it was the teacher. I was floored, not that he was angry with God but that e had the nerve to let such a thing come from his mouth. I have been perplexed by God, disappointed at times. I have been disturbed by something that God mayhave allowed to come into my life. ButI can never recall being actually angry with God. I think that I recognize my total inability to fight with Him and that makes beingangry with Him unreasonable to me. Besides that, I like God even when things arent as I would prefer. I am always impressed with Him. I have a dificult time being angry with someone I like.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/13/2009 10:00:59 PM
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I've been angry at God. It's certainly not a politically....or spiritually correct idea. And not one that I assume many care to admit. I've been angry even during non-tragic events that have occurred(I lost my mother, father and 5 week baby daughter in the same month). I wasn't angry then but during some other trial. The greatest struggle at the time was admitting and confessing that I was angry...both to myself and to God...as if He didn't already know I believe it's freedom for those who are-- to admit it and to talk to God about it(which, I know is difficult at first). I don't believe He's particularly "moved" by our anger. He's pretty secure with who He is, His foreknowledge of all things and His own wisdom. I don't see it as any different than a two-year old's temper tantrum. A wise parent corrects/disciplines but with the understanding that a 2 year old will act........like a 2 year old. If my 16 year old threw a tantrum in the middle of the floor......uh, yeah! Our anger at God, IMO is a result of our own lack of understanding and spiritual maturity and the fact that pride and foolishness rest in the boosom of us flawed human beings. As we continue to walk with God, seek Him and go thru life's experiences I'm confident that we begin to see God for Who He is...a Father, a Faithful provider, A Friend, and the Lover of our souls. I would encourage anyone who's angry to maintain (or gain) a reverent attitude towards God. I don't recommend people to start rambling a bunch of curses out of their mouths towards heaven but I would say talk it out with Him and don't be afraid to admit you're angry. He can handle it. And He will still reveal His uncondtional love towards you if you accept it
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/14/2009 9:59:24 AM
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quote: The Good news is that I let them know that their reason for being angry at God was real No, their reason is not 'real'. Their reason is sinful, selfish and gives evidence of no knowledge of the One they say they are angry at. quote: Thank you for your sincere reply. In my witnessing I have found that people who are angry want to know that they are heard. First listen to them, then sow a seed of the word of God and his great kingdom. They will see that we understand their hurt, and might open their hearts to receive the peace of the Lord into their hearts. Understand holds the seed of the word. Matthew 13:19 When anyone hears the word of the kingdom, and does not understand it, then the wicked one comes and snatches away what was sow in the heart. When we let our light of none judgmentalness show only the ligt of Christ draws.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/14/2009 10:15:49 AM
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I would encourage anyone who's angry to maintain (or gain) a reverent attitude towards God. I don't recommend people to start rambling a bunch of curses out of their mouths towards heaven but I would say talk it out with Him and don't be afraid to admit you're angry. He can handle it. And He will still reveal His uncondtional love towards you if you accept it Wow, that is powerful. Yes, God can take it, HE IS GOD. Thank you for confessing what I call "Secretly Angry with God" I love your testimony is so Real!!!
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/14/2009 11:01:03 AM
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I was angry with God for giving me a child with a genetic disease and a life expectancy of 31. I thought it was a kind of punishment. But God told me he was a blessing. My son is indeed a blessing. It took a while to work through the issues and I told God I was angry and sought his will in prayer for a long time until I came to a point where I "forgave" him. I have come to trust him more over the years and I know his will is perfect. Though things are not always (or usually) easy I know that God looks after us and cares for my son when everything is out of my hands. I can say now that God's ways are indeed higher than mine and there is so much more waiting for us after death. I don't claim to know exactly why he chose me to be my son's mum but I do know that there is a bigger plan than I know of. I am confused sometimes when things are bad but no longer angry. I know that wehn the time comes to nurse my son through death, God will give me all the strength I need and he knows how I feel.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/18/2009 7:16:41 PM
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I can say now that God's ways are indeed higher than mine and there is so much more waiting for us after death. Wow, you have great courage, you are more than a conqueror through Jesus Christ!!! I love your confession of anger to trust, it has blessed me. I touch and agree with you more waiting for us after death (passing into our permanent home with Jesus). I have hope that this too shall pass concerning all the sickness, and I believe by the amount of faith I have received from God, that the healing have already taken place "by his strips". I speak this because the word of God is truth. I speak the word to that sickness, "Christ healed all sickness and diseases".
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/19/2009 7:16:04 AM
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ORIGINAL: JosephineKerr I have found through my witnessing the Gospel of Jesus Christ some very interesting things. I found that many people had experienced being angry with God, and some are still angry with God, by their confession. Some said that "My mom had died", "My child had died", "My wife divorced me", "I was hurt in Church" and they walked away from Jesus, family, jobs, and ministry. Some are even living on the streets today. Stuck and don't know it! What I noticed was that each ones' prayer request was about everything but moving pass the anger. Then when I seen them again not only were their life the same, but their prayer request was the same. No progress. The Good news is that I let them know that their reason for being angry at God was real, and after allowing them to vent their anger, I told them that Jesus was ready to help if they asked. And he would show them how to move forward. One foot at a time! Jesus said let who will, let them come. Were you ever angry with God, and how did the Lord help? Are you angry with God and Why? Ohhhh, yes, was I ever angry at God. I used to think that He was just this mean old guy who wanted me to live by His crazy old rules, and if you didn't live by His rules, then He was going to torture you for eternity. I was like, screw Him. I'll live life the way I want to. Of course, that was before I realized that His "rules" were meant to give me a better life. I thought He just wanted to take all the fun out of life. What do ya mean I can't get me some of her; only sleep with one chick, are you kidding me? Are you nuts? Why can't I smoke this, or drink that. I deserve to have some fun. That was my attitude. Of course I learned, as so many do, that attitude led me into darkness, into a severe depression. It also made me angry that life sucked so bad, that there was so many bad things happening in the world. I was mad because He created Satan, even knowing that He would rebel and cause so much misery. When I reached my lowest, and called out to Him and asked why and what I must I do, He showed me my attitude. He told me it would be alright though, that I could still have His life, His love, and a future filled with hope and joy if I would just trust Him and surrender my life to Him. Once again, He was right, and I was wrong. I think I spent the first 30 years of my life being mostly wrong about just about everything, and could not understand why I was so miserable or why I was such a loser.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/19/2009 7:25:51 AM
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ORIGINAL: doinkdom The phrase, "angry at God" just doesn't set well with me...we don't get our way, so we anthropomorphize (putting human conditions on a Holy God) God and convince ourselves it's "okay" to be angry at Him cause He can take it. Anger is an emotion and does not require the object of the anger to be humanized. Indeed, most racisim has anger at its heart and succedes well in dehumanizing the subjects. Take the lynching of blacks in the southern states or the Holocaust in ww2. Even the Viet Nam war was not against humans, it was against "gooks." So harboring anger against your brother, or a tyrant ruling your country, or God Himself is a very normal (fallen) human thing to do. It is also clearly wrong under the New Covenant.
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/19/2009 8:44:36 AM
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ORIGINAL: frankman I prayed for "so and so" to get well and guess what, they died, and now I`m angry at God. God did not answer my prayer the way I wanted Him to answer it. Sometimes the answer to a prayer is "No."
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/20/2009 6:34:44 AM
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I prayed for "so and so" to get well and guess what, they died, and now I`m angry at God. God did not answer my prayer the way I wanted Him to answer it. I asked my daddy for a new cell phone and he did not give me one. Now I am mad at him forever. Boo Hoo. How childish can we get?
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RE: Angry With God, WHY? - 11/20/2009 7:17:44 AM
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A little harsh there, aren't you Dave? Did the Holy Spirit tell you to respond like that?
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